Why I believe in God.

[toro]

Sorry. Explain why quantum mechanics and relativity (special or general?) are incompatible with the notion of a God?

The common concept of God requires a single, objective universe in which everything exists: God knows everything and controls everything simultaneously.

Relativity shows that the world is not objective. It does not show that the world appears relative, it shows that the world is relative. So values are dependent on the observer and the observer's system. Outside the observer's system interacting system, nothing exists for the observer. If God knows everything, then this is incorrect. The world has an objective system: God. In order for God to exist in the non-objective universe, that would make God physically subjective to observers, and contrary to the common definition. If it exists outside of it, it doesn't matter: it has no effect on us.

Claiming God knows what every observer will experience is contrary to QM. Values do not exist until interaction. These values collapse into (available) discrete states in a random manner. If God knew what they were either (a) they wouldn't collapse (which they do) or (b) everything collapses according to God's 1) observation (meaning he watches, but doesn't effect, making him pointless) or 2) plan (which, given that they collapse randomly, God's plan is random, again making him pointless).

Different QM interpretations have different flaws in the inclusion of God, and I don't want to go over all of them. Look them up, raise a possibility of why one of them is compatible, and we can discuss it.

We could also posit that God exists by additional laws of physics, but that wasn't the question.

IMHO.

Sorry, forgot about the thread.

[The Grand Nudger]

A roman catholic whose belief in god does not rely on the bible? Doubtful. Referring to the other religious traditions of the world as some sort of appeal to majority in your beliefs leads me to a few questions. Why have you rejected the true gospel of Vishnu? Wotan will not reward you for a peaceful life and so you may want to try to die gloriously on the field of battle. Perhaps make an offering to Mac Lir before you go fishing next? Wakan-tanka has some demands as well. None of the people who worshipped any of these have evidence either. Are you seriously saying that you believe because others believe (ignoring the fundamental differences in what others may believe, because they all at least believe in some god). Well, some others "believe" that there is no god, why don't you "believe" with them?

[LastPoet]

My wife that also claims to be Catholic, takes the bible as an allegory etc. too. Infact I'm quite lucky, cause people here, despite 90% declare themselves catholics really don't go too much into it, most don't go to church, etc. IMO its that fear to let go their security blanket. Kinda like Linus from Charlie Brown.