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Homeschooling children.
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Homeschooling children.
I am not a big supporter of homeschooling but I'm considering homeschooling my daughter because the school she goes to is not meeting her needs. The best way to describe her is slightly autistic. The school seems to be incapable of handling this and is almost belligerent in their unwillingness to work with us. Time wise it's not too great a burden for me to home school because I do most of my work from home. The problem is I don't know if there are any home school programs that are non religious.

Does anyone know of any home school programs that are non religious?
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise

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RE: Homeschooling children.
Isn't the bigger question one of social skills? Autism is a disorder which effects social and communication skills. Does keeping her in a safe little womb help with the larger problem?
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RE: Homeschooling children.
Taking her out of school maybe justified here, as I've know from past experience teachers, especially Catholic ones, can be horribly intolerable toward autistic pupils.

However, I'm not aware of any home school programs in your area sorry.
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RE: Homeschooling children.
(November 30, 2011 at 3:40 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Isn't the bigger question one of social skills? Autism is a disorder which effects social and communication skills. Does keeping her in a safe little womb help with the larger problem?


Perhaps not, Min. However, small schools that usually refused to even accept special ed money (only reason why my shitty mountain school ever did special ed) aren't even worth working with. It means that they'll simply try to isolate her either in a shitty little classroom with no inkling of what to do with her or will try to socialize her with the other kids, which will end in disaster.

If you're going to home school her, home school her right. Build an actual course, obtain the materials and teach. Don't rely on other people and certainly don't rely on the local "home school" programs. They usually assume your kid is going to be a house painter or something and never provide any challenges.

Challenge her. And get her to talk to you about talking to people. The more you can reduce her anxiety and fears about dealing with others, the better.

I've always had issues with talking to people and it has often had people figuring me to be autistic when I was younger. Took a long time, but I found my voice when I eventually learned enough protocols and techniques for talking to people that I could invent my own, and eventually have conversations like normal people do.

Fear and anxiety really drive aspies mad -- if you can help them conquer it, you help the learn how to live with their disability, instead of simply being insulated from it.
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RE: Homeschooling children.
I don't know what "slightly autistic" actually means and I can't recall where Zippy is located. Larger schools usually have some sort of special ed committee or something but I can't tell if she even needs special education from the given description.

The problem I have with home-schooling ( especially for and by religious asswipes) is that the real world is still out there and the kid is going to have to deal with it eventually.
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RE: Homeschooling children.
If you take her out of school, remember there are many groups of parents who have done the same that meet up regularly so their kids socialise with others, find them and ask what they know etc.
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(November 30, 2011 at 4:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The problem I have with home-schooling ( especially for and by religious asswipes) is that the real world is still out there and the kid is going to have to deal with it eventually.

Which is why I focused on the socializing aspect, with reducing anxiety and working to ease Zips daughter into society. Isolation may be initially helpful, but is long term destructive.
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RE: Homeschooling children.
I have looked into it before. I could not find a secular home schooling program. They all had bible study as a part of the required curriculum.

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RE: Homeschooling children.
Quote:If you take her out of school, remember there are many groups of parents who have done the same that meet up regularly so their kids socialise with others, find them and ask what they know etc.

Unfortunately many of these are fundies. This is what I fear.

My daughter has serious difficulty picking up social clues from the environment. It's like being socially retarded. It's a trait that runs in my family. Eventually you outgrow some of the problems or find ways around it. At the same time the children growing up with you have matured enough to be able to accept you and interact with you socially. Until that time life is hell. To make matters worse my daughter has the critical thinking ability of a high school student. She can't seem to turn off the logic and analysis. It's like being extremely unbalanced. 5th graders don't understand her.

My daughter also has difficulty with distractions. She needs peace and quiet. It's like she can do the social thing (poorly) or studying but she can't multitask. She can't even switch back and forth very well.

The worst problem of all is the incessant bullying. The kids have singled her out as the kid to pick on. They know that the teachers won't do much about it. My daughter doesn't have the social skills to fight back without hitting. When she does defend herself she gets in trouble and often the bully gets away with it. I've tried working with the school, little gets done. I've tried working with the school counselor, this has been somewhat successful. Unfortunately the more successful it is the less she gets to spend with the counselor. Then her behavior gets worse and she spends more time with the counselor. It's a cycle.

Meanwhile Her self esteem is horrible, she doesn't smile much and she has no one to talk to (of course almost no one talks to her because shes the "weirdo"). Things are so bad in her school that people who would ordinarily talk to her are afraid to for fear of getting teased by the other students.

I tried to get her involved with Girl Scouts. I thought this might help her socially, but the girls didn't accept her she was ostracized at the weirdo. Consistently any extracurricular activity that provides socialization follows this pattern. She didn't even do well in the church youth group back when I used to go to church.

As for special ed, if you are retarded they have a program for you. If you are socially retarded but have the critical thinking ability of a high school student you are screwed. They are the same way with ADD children. Their way of dealing with them is to drug them. I fought for years to keep my son from being drugged. I won. Now my son has "magically" outgrown his ADD (translation: he matured) and he is an A/B student in the gifted and talented program. He is also one project away from getting Eagle Scout with the Boy Scouts.
(November 30, 2011 at 8:25 pm)aleialoura Wrote: I have looked into it before. I could not find a secular home schooling program. They all had bible study as a part of the required curriculum.

It's not just the Bible study that's the problem. Woven into many programs is creation "science" or "intelligent" design. They also infect history. They do the usual fundie thing and "prove" that the founding fathers of the U.S. were Christians and that the U.S. was founded as a Christian (obviously protestant) country. I always find it funny how they try to shoe horn Benjamin Franklin into a Christian mold.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise

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RE: Homeschooling children.
(November 30, 2011 at 3:29 pm)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: I am not a big supporter of homeschooling but I'm considering homeschooling my daughter because the school she goes to is not meeting her needs. The best way to describe her is slightly autistic. The school seems to be incapable of handling this and is almost belligerent in their unwillingness to work with us. Time wise it's not too great a burden for me to home school because I do most of my work from home. The problem is I don't know if there are any home school programs that are non religious.

Does anyone know of any home school programs that are non religious?

Home schooling is rare in Australia, because the evangelicals here have access to low fee (heavily subsided by tax dollars) evangelical schools for their children.

In my state we have the Distance Education Center which runs homeschooling programs and I have not heard anything bad about them. It is aimed towards children for some reason or another cant attend schools.
http://www.distance.vic.edu.au/

Anyway I am wondering if there are in your area ASD support groups and especially groups for children with ASD's by any chance?
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