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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 12, 2011 at 1:41 am
(December 11, 2011 at 6:21 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Good luck with that. I had something similar to that crap happen with my in-laws several years ago, they became more religious in response.
they still are.
Half of me thinks that when people do that, they are only putting on a show to prove some kind of point to atheists. Ooh the atheists are coming! Quick act all religious! *acts all religious* Look at us, we're real Christians!
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 12, 2011 at 1:53 am
Well... what do you want for presents? Maybe we can start a fundraiser for you so you can still get something for the holiday.
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 12, 2011 at 1:54 am
Run away from home.
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 12, 2011 at 2:35 am
I feel sorry for you man. When I told my parents I was an atheist when I was 15, they simply stopped forcing me to go to church and that was it. No attempts whatsoever to get me to reconsider my position, no insults about how evil I was, they simply realized it was my choice and that they still loved me no matter what I felt about god.
So based on my experience I would try to explain to them that their beliefs are just beliefs, and not everyone believes the same thing. Then explain that a difference in beliefs shouldn't make you any less of a family, but if it did, the family was lacking a strong enough bond before any of these issues arose. Remind them you are still family, and beliefs can't tear apart a strong family on their own.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Parents wont let me celebrate Christmas
December 12, 2011 at 8:55 am
ouch! that is really screwy. true I only like the present giving part and the singing of carols etc...but that's a pretty damn good part!
oh and the food. that's what it's really about these days...
seriously sorry to hear that, friend.
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Ridiculous to say, outside the sky was nothing.
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RE: Parents wont let me celebrate Christmas
December 13, 2011 at 5:36 pm
I'm not much for gifts, but if that's the main concern: pretend to be religious and wait until you're not dependent on them to tell them that the main lesson you learned from their threats was how to be a more convincing liar because when they had a chance to respect your honesty they threw a little tantrum instead. For extra points, you can pretend to be so religious that they wish you were still an atheist.
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 14, 2011 at 7:12 am
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(December 11, 2011 at 6:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Instead of buying presents for them, buy them for yourself. You'll get exactly what you want come Christmas then. Cards ditto. I guess dinner will be minimal. Wow... sounds like a very religious Xmas! 
If ReB selflessly give presents to his parents and bluntly stated: "I did for love, not Christianity." Parents will feel bad and be more tolerant afterwards.
Hey, I'm an atheist and celebrates with my Christian siblings - at best they knew what I am celebrating for love, friendship, relationship towards my dear ones --- Not for slightest of Christianity.
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RE: Parents wont let me celebrate Christmas
December 14, 2011 at 7:25 am
As a Christian parent, I'd suggest not lying about your beliefs. Show them that video. Talk to them about love, familiy and religion and how they're different. A calm and rational, unselfish attitude will go a long way, IMO. The fact you're doing it all just to get presents is telling.
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RE: Parents wont let me celebrate Christmas
December 14, 2011 at 9:13 am
If they won't listen to reason, then bleed them like a stuck pig >:}
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RE: Parents wont let me celebrate Christmas
December 15, 2011 at 8:19 am
If I were in your shoes I would turn the other cheek and buy them all presents. XD
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