(August 1, 2015 at 12:14 am)Godschild Wrote:

(July 31, 2015 at 9:09 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If God called you then you are a prophet, right?  So what did he say to you?  Have you written it down?    Did he give you any magical powers?  Can you turn a stick into a snake?  Can you walk on water?  Can you raise the dead?  When God first spoke to you did you roll yourself up into a carpet?  Did he tell you to sacrifice someone to prove your faith?  Can you levitate a mountain?  Did he put you into the mouth of a whale for three days?  Tell us what happened so that we won't think that you are a lunatic.

It's easy to see who the lunatic is, in case you can't figure it out find a mirror.

GC

(August 4, 2015 at 4:40 pm)Shuffle Wrote:

(August 4, 2015 at 4:25 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: I don't know, that's what you proposed!  

Let's just look at three specific gods and start by satisfying point #1.  Give me three specific god's that satisfy the requirement of the creation event (point #1).  We can then move on to the truth claims of the creation event.

And don't misunderstand, I in no way think that when you accept the premise that God exists for the sake of argument you're now somehow a theist.

How do you not know?

Brahma, Yaweh, and Allah.

Which Brahma? Your Brahma or mine [although both are equally true]? There are also multiple Hindu creation accounts, which one specifically are you using [although each of those are equally true]?

The Islamic god claims to be the final [and corrected] revelation of Yaweh. Are you claiming them to be the same, or are you differentiating them as different gods, and if so why?

With respect to Yaweh are you claiming creatio ex nihilo or theistic evolution as the creation account?

I realize this may seem a bit tedious, but without defining our terms we can't communicate properly.

(August 6, 2015 at 10:36 am)orangebox21 Wrote: The Islamic god claims to be the final [and corrected] revelation of Yaweh.

The question is why would an omniscient, omnipotent and eternal being not get it's first revelation correct? Why would it need a second, with the christian coming of christ, and a third, with the revelation on the Arab peninsula?

(August 6, 2015 at 10:52 am)abaris Wrote:

(August 6, 2015 at 10:36 am)orangebox21 Wrote: The Islamic god claims to be the final [and corrected] revelation of Yaweh.

The question is why would an omniscient, omnipotent and eternal being not get it's first revelation correct? Why would it need a second, with the christian coming of christ,

The coming of Christ is not a "correction" but a fulfillment of what was promised in the OT. It's a continuation.

(August 6, 2015 at 10:52 am)abaris Wrote: and a third, with the revelation on the Arab peninsula?

If it's the same god, then yes that would be a good question.  If not, then the question is nonsensical.

(August 6, 2015 at 12:04 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: If it's the same god, then yes that would be a good question.  If not, then the question is nonsensical.

No, it isn't in any case. If it's the same god, it is as you say. If it isn't the same god, he does a good job in taking all the essential personalities from the other religion. From Gabriel to Jesus, down to Mary. It also begs the question of more than one god existing, if it isn't the same god, yet a god.

(August 6, 2015 at 10:52 am)abaris Wrote:

(August 6, 2015 at 10:36 am)orangebox21 Wrote: The Islamic god claims to be the final [and corrected] revelation of Yaweh.

The question is why would an omniscient, omnipotent and eternal being not get it's first revelation correct? Why would it need a second, with the christian coming of christ, and a third, with the revelation on the Arab peninsula?

Because over time sinnful Man corrupts what he recieve in purity.

(August 6, 2015 at 10:36 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Which Brahma?  Your Brahma or mine [although both are equally true]?  There are also multiple Hindu creation accounts, which one specifically are you using [although each of those are equally true]?

The Islamic god claims to be the final [and corrected] revelation of Yaweh.  Are you claiming them to be the same, or are you differentiating them as different gods, and if so why?  

With respect to Yaweh are you claiming creatio ex nihilo or theistic evolution as the creation account?

I realize this may seem a bit tedious, but without defining our terms we can't communicate properly.

You are wrong. There are multiple Hindu creation accounts, because Hindus believe there are multiple universes. There is only one creation account for our universe. Do some research.

I was not aware of this, so instead of Yaweh and Allah, lets go with Yaweh and Gaea.

I was going to go with the actual creation account in the bible.