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christian looking to understand athiests
RE: christian looking to understand athiests
(August 19, 2015 at 9:33 am)Alex K Wrote:
(August 19, 2015 at 9:30 am)Neimenovic Wrote: What the fuck ever. I'm the wafflest anyway

Waffler than Charlie Waffles?

https://youtu.be/ttI3C2CfWDo

Leggo my Eggo. Waffles are forever! waffles answer prayers! And they go good with coffee.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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(August 19, 2015 at 7:34 am)ToriJ Wrote: Why was the devil even made? That seems counterproductive. I'd get it if God was a fantasy author and we're all characters in a storybook, but we're not, and he isn't.

Easy. The Devil is the fall guy.



Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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The devil was created for the same reason god was created. One false explanation requires another.

Like the woman who swallowed a fly
She swallowed a mouse to catch the fly
She swallowed a cat to catch the house
She swallowed a dog to catch the cat
She swallowed a horse
She died, of course
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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I'm vegetarian for a reason.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
Two reasons: Lack of faith, and lack of evidence.

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(August 19, 2015 at 11:16 am)Alex K Wrote: I'm vegetarian for a reason.

I'm sure they make tofu flies somewhere
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(August 18, 2015 at 9:51 am)msid Wrote: i see that most of you believe what you do because of lack of evidence that there is a God. Personally i am a christian because of all the evidence ive seen and the ways ive seen him answer prayers. ive had people come up to me and pray for problems that i was having that i hadnt told anyone. ive had many prayers awnsered in ways that could only be explained by God. I also completely understand everyone heres point of view

Well, until I know your definition of god, and what your standards of evidence are, I can't really parse this statement, because it's largely meaningless.

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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
(August 19, 2015 at 11:16 am)Alex K Wrote: I'm vegetarian for a reason.

Would you care to discuss it? I've found that vegetarianism is one of the things Christians fear. It's rebellion against god and is one step short of atheism. You can't love god if you don't eat meat.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
(August 19, 2015 at 11:31 am)Neimenovic Wrote:
(August 19, 2015 at 11:16 am)Alex K Wrote: I'm vegetarian for a reason.

I'm sure they make tofu flies somewhere

"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
-- Marx
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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its a long story but ill try to make it as short as i can.
I was raised christian like most Americans. In other words taught about the great sky father before the age of reason. At 7 I was in a bible camp and with all the adults around me saying i should give my heart to Jesus and with my life a big fear of when I was going to f'k up next due to something i didn't know and get threatened with pain or banishment...I did. My thought (at 7) was that there was a divine spirit that would at least help me feel okay about myself and get through my childhood with my self esteem intact.

A big fat NO! No divine light. No spiritual strength. No results. Nothing changed. In fact the people who said they were "Christian" acted nothing like what Jesus taught (a very few people did okay but any faith or way of thinking has about the same ratio of good to bad people)

I tried for 7 years to be "Christian" to no avail.

At 14 y/o i was looking at the kitchen knife in my hand truly contemplating ending it all....Imagine that at 14.

I decided that I should try anything and everything else to make good of myself before giving up and if Jesus wouldn't help me, as i was led to believe by society, then I would do it myself.

I did....
In doing so i looked into other faiths and ways of thinking. In doing so i also incurred the wrath of my peers and authorities for rejecting Jesus. It was more important to THEM that I die with Jesus (and the knife) in my heart than to live a better and happier life with out him.

This my friend is my story. If your experience was better then good. I say what ever makes you a better person and happy in your life. As for me I choose logic and reason. they do not lie.
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