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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 10:03 am
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
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Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 10:48 am
The devil was created for the same reason god was created. One false explanation requires another.
Like the woman who swallowed a fly
She swallowed a mouse to catch the fly
She swallowed a cat to catch the house
She swallowed a dog to catch the cat
She swallowed a horse
She died, of course
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
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Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 11:16 am
I'm vegetarian for a reason.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 11:17 am
Two reasons: Lack of faith, and lack of evidence.
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 11:51 am
(August 19, 2015 at 11:16 am)Alex K Wrote: I'm vegetarian for a reason.
Would you care to discuss it? I've found that vegetarianism is one of the things Christians fear. It's rebellion against god and is one step short of atheism. You can't love god if you don't eat meat.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
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Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 11:55 am
(August 19, 2015 at 11:31 am)Neimenovic Wrote: (August 19, 2015 at 11:16 am)Alex K Wrote: I'm vegetarian for a reason.
I'm sure they make tofu flies somewhere
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
-- Marx
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 12:23 pm
its a long story but ill try to make it as short as i can.
I was raised christian like most Americans. In other words taught about the great sky father before the age of reason. At 7 I was in a bible camp and with all the adults around me saying i should give my heart to Jesus and with my life a big fear of when I was going to f'k up next due to something i didn't know and get threatened with pain or banishment...I did. My thought (at 7) was that there was a divine spirit that would at least help me feel okay about myself and get through my childhood with my self esteem intact.
A big fat NO! No divine light. No spiritual strength. No results. Nothing changed. In fact the people who said they were "Christian" acted nothing like what Jesus taught (a very few people did okay but any faith or way of thinking has about the same ratio of good to bad people)
I tried for 7 years to be "Christian" to no avail.
At 14 y/o i was looking at the kitchen knife in my hand truly contemplating ending it all....Imagine that at 14.
I decided that I should try anything and everything else to make good of myself before giving up and if Jesus wouldn't help me, as i was led to believe by society, then I would do it myself.
I did....
In doing so i looked into other faiths and ways of thinking. In doing so i also incurred the wrath of my peers and authorities for rejecting Jesus. It was more important to THEM that I die with Jesus (and the knife) in my heart than to live a better and happier life with out him.
This my friend is my story. If your experience was better then good. I say what ever makes you a better person and happy in your life. As for me I choose logic and reason. they do not lie.