(August 21, 2015 at 10:41 am)Kaninchen Wrote: Judaism, Randy, has never been Christianity minus Jesus - it wasn't 2000 years ago and isn't now.

Interesting...

Judaism has always watched for a coming messiah. Did not Moses state that God would raise up a prophet like him, and those that refused to listen to him would be destroyed?

Quote:Deuteronomy 18
15 The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

Quote:Deuteronomy 18
18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

Quote:Acts 3
20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

In Judaism, Moses was the greatest prophet, the only other prophet that was greater than Moses, was Jesus Christ.

Moses was a dumb ass and made a lot of type typical remarks. No surprise there.

Huggy74 is quoting the NT(Acts) at a Jew. LOL!

The Torah specifically states that the savior was to be a warrior. The Jesus of the Christian religion was no such warrior, for he was the equivalent of the modern day pacifist hippy. Therefore, according to Judaism, Jesus Christ was not the son of god.

Yes, I read it. Hence the fact that I linked it in my post.

Why don't you BURY us with your own words? Why is it you can't have a conversation without copying and pasting the majority of your contributions?

Also, your word means absolutely nothing.

(August 21, 2015 at 4:13 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(August 21, 2015 at 10:41 am)Kaninchen Wrote: Judaism, Randy, has never been Christianity minus Jesus - it wasn't 2000 years ago and isn't now.

Interesting...

Judaism has always watched for a coming messiah. Did not Moses state that God would raise up a prophet like him, and those that refused to listen to him would be destroyed?

Now that the Messiah has come...and they killed him...Jews have backpedaled away from the idea that they ever expected a messiah. They either ignore the prophecies or apply them to Israel now. But not to Jesus...no, siree.

I suspect that Kaninchen is a secular Jew. She might celebrate Passover and Hanukkah with her parents (because they want her to), but based on what she DOESN'T say here or at CAF, I think if she ever had any real belief in the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob long ago, she gave it up long ago.

She's VERY European, after all.

(August 22, 2015 at 2:57 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Yes, I read it. Hence the fact that I linked it in my post.

Why don't you BURY us with your own words? Why is it you can't have a conversation without copying and pasting the majority of your contributions?

Also, your word means absolutely nothing.

Because MY words means absolutely nothing.

But the words of genuine experts should.

That's why when a world-class expert like Ehrman tees off on the mental midgets who claim that Jesus never existed (and this forum is lousy with them), it is like a dagger through the heart of those who have built their entire BELIEF system upon sand.

I'm not here to post my opinion; I'm here to provide solid answers, and you can bet that if I post something without saying it is my own opinion, then there is probably some solid reasoning and/or scholarship behind it.

No it's not.