(August 25, 2015 at 6:20 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: If you got the opportunity then get while the gettin is good. Glad you have Gram's for support. Let the important people in your life know whats goin on. You may be surprised where additional support will show up.

Not to cast any aspersions but it sounds like pops has more problems than narcissism.

My family out here knows how he is, and they can’t get along with him either, practically no one can. The only way people can get along with him is if the relationship is saying a hello in the neighborhood on occasion. He literally can’t get along with anyone that he lives with. He has a lot of problems living with people on his side of the family (that are similar to him), and with us (that are the opposite of him), it’s definitely not me or anyone else. I want peace, that’s all I want. I want it desperately.

He definitely has personality disorder(s), and looks at the world in a very radical way. He thinks Obama is the anti-christ, he thinks he’s not going to leave office, he believes no one on this planet can deny the ‘miracles’ at fatima. He thinks all the bigfoot, ghost, psychic, alien abduction stories are a 100% legit. We were watching a program on T.V. before, and a guy had claimed that he had traveled back in time to see the Gettysburg Address multiple times on one of those conspiracy shows, and he said, “I have no reason to doubt this guy. I can tell by his eyes, he’s not making it up.” My dad is very far gone from reality, although most wouldn’t normally pick it up when first meeting him, because he’s usually kind, talkative, and has a sense of humor.. come to think of it.. it’s almost something like bi-polar or something.. I don’t know. I definitely don't want to be around him drinking, he literally completely loses his fucking mind. He can go from laughing his ass off to screaming like a fucking maniac. It's like a very temporary bi-polar thing though, he's just a miserable piece of shit, even after putting himself in a state of grace, praying for hours a day.

Holy crap. Has he always been this way?

(August 25, 2015 at 7:34 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: I definitely don't want to be around him drinking, he literally completely loses his fucking mind. He can go from laughing his ass off to screaming like a fucking maniac.

A substance abuse disorder did cross my mind when I read the original post but wanted to wait until you brought it up. Is this the cause of the abuse, the house falling down, the unemployment, the family/friend aversion? When he is sober (and not hungover) does he still display the same behavior (maybe to a lesser extent)?

I got a good idea that he'd blow up and refuse, but has anyone suggested that he have an assessment?

To be completely honest if I had a family member like that I'd cut them loose once I'm financially stable enough on my own. Ciao, sashay away, may the odds be ever in your favour bitch.

Why keep these people around if they're a waste of space? Just because you're blood relatives? Fuck that, let them drift off into the sunset (or go yourself if they won't).

Sounds like you looked at this prior. Many people with substance use/abuse disorders also have underlying personality disorders. The substance use is often an easy self medicate solution. In your spare time give this a read.

https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/the-...-disorder/

(August 25, 2015 at 8:31 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: Why keep these people around if they're a waste of space? Just because you're blood relatives? Fuck that, let them drift off into the sunset (or go yourself if they won't).

This is a non-option for some of us.  You'll be senile someday if nothing else happens from here to then.........lol.......you wont remember these words -because senile-...........nevertheless, I hope you're lucky enough to have people who would disagree with your position, were you still lucid...which you won't be....as a husk waiting to happen.

(August 25, 2015 at 8:23 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Holy crap. Has he always been this way?

He’s been nearly this bad since I was 11-13, and probably this bad since I was 18-19. I doubt he was like this when my mother met him though. My other family members seemed to notice a change as he got more religious and when he started worshipping the people at FOX, like he worships his statue of the virgin mary.

Ever tried having fun with it?

As the saying goes, Sal, "you can pick your friends but you can't pick your family."  While true the corollary is also true:  "You can ignore either if they turn out to be asswipes."

You owe him nothing.  He sounds like a first-class cunt and you are right, he's never going to change.  So fuck him.  His behavior has no impact on him but it sounds as if it is killing you.  Write him off.

(August 25, 2015 at 8:29 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(August 25, 2015 at 7:34 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: I definitely don't want to be around him drinking, he literally completely loses his fucking mind. He can go from laughing his ass off to screaming like a fucking maniac.

A substance abuse disorder did cross my mind when I read the original post but wanted to wait until you brought it up. Is this the cause of the abuse, the house falling down, the unemployment, the family/friend aversion? When he is sober (and not hungover) does he still display the same behavior (maybe to a lesser extent)?

I got a good idea that he'd blow up and refuse, but has anyone suggested that he have an assessment?

He had periods of his life where he drank a lot, but when I was born, my mother must have said something within the first few months of me being alive to him to make him stop. Which doesn’t sound like him, because he doesn’t listen to anybody. He’ll listen to a stranger’s advice off the street, and take as absolute truth, but when someone says something to him in his family, “Don’t tell me what to do!” blah blah blah. He didn’t drink for years, and started drinking again probably 10 years ago. He drinks once or twice a week, and no one wants to be around him at all when he’s drinking. The narcissist kicks into full gear. Some of the family members on his side are almost exactly the same. Some have had kids, and haven’t spoken to them in 30+ years, because they act so similar.. The unemployment for years has been a big part of the problem in the house, but we pretty much know he’ll never work again. He won’t take direction from anyone, and won’t stop telling people how to do their jobs or he won’t take any sort of order from his boss, so he’ll just quit and tell them to fuck off. He’s his own boss, end of story. And no assessment, I doubt he’d ever go for that. I doubt this is the root cause, he’s just wants to live in misery, and wants everyone around him in misery as well. That seems to be my assessment, his side of the family is negative as hell and looooovvvveesss drama.