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RE: If You Were An Atheist
August 27, 2015 at 4:50 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 4:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (August 13, 2015 at 1:19 am)Shuffle Wrote: This is the seventh thread in which I ask theists very simple questions that deserve very simple answers. The last one was History Repeats Itself.
The question I propose to you is:
- If you were an atheist tomorrow, how would you change the rest of your life? Personality, morals, etc.
I only decided to put one question this time, so it should be pretty easy to answer.
Thanks!
Asking someone what they'd be like if they were totally different is not a simple question at all. 
I know there are exceptions, but generally speaking, a person's faith (if it's a strong faith) doesn't normally tend to be some little surface part of themselves. For me, it's so much a part of me, and so contributory to who I am and how I was led to be this way, that I'd have no idea what I'd be like without it. You may as well ask me what I'd be like if I was a man lol. I have no idea.
I know what kind of atheist you'd be: A very, very naughty atheist -- one in need of severe guidance.
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RE: If You Were An Atheist
August 27, 2015 at 4:54 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 4:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Asking someone what they'd be like if they were totally different is not a simple question at all.
I know there are exceptions, but generally speaking, a person's faith (if it's a strong faith) doesn't normally tend to be some little surface part of themselves. For me, it's so much a part of me, and so contributory to who I am and how I was led to be this way, that I'd have no idea what I'd be like without it. You may as well ask me what I'd be like if I was a man lol. I have no idea.
I know what kind of atheist you'd be: A very, very naughty atheist -- one in need of severe guidance.
Oh snap.... 
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: If You Were An Atheist
August 27, 2015 at 4:58 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 4:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: I know what kind of atheist you'd be: A very, very naughty atheist -- one in need of severe guidance.
Oh snap....
Shit, I said that out loud? Ok, crawling back into my cesspool of private depravity . . . .
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RE: If You Were An Atheist
August 28, 2015 at 12:53 am
(August 27, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Divinity Wrote: Driving isn't more dangerous than sky diving. More people die from driving, but that's because more people drive. It's like saying "More people are killed by vending machines each year than Sharks, so Vending Machines are more dangerous than Sharks." Would you rather be trapped in a cage with a shark, or a vending machine?
No no no no no. Percentages don't care about how many they are. What level of math did you take, and still understand? This is elementary level stuff. There's a 0.0007% chance of dying from a skydive, compared to a 0.0167% for driving.
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RE: If You Were An Atheist
August 28, 2015 at 11:08 am
(August 28, 2015 at 12:53 am)Shuffle Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Divinity Wrote: Driving isn't more dangerous than sky diving. More people die from driving, but that's because more people drive. It's like saying "More people are killed by vending machines each year than Sharks, so Vending Machines are more dangerous than Sharks." Would you rather be trapped in a cage with a shark, or a vending machine?
No no no no no. Percentages don't care about how many they are. What level of math did you take, and still understand? This is elementary level stuff. There's a 0.0007% chance of dying from a skydive, compared to a 0.0167% for driving.
I don't think there is any need to be so condescending, imho. 
She's taking the time to respond to the question you asked and to engage in conversation with you.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: If You Were An Atheist
August 28, 2015 at 11:10 am
(August 19, 2015 at 9:47 am)lkingpinl Wrote: (August 19, 2015 at 9:32 am)Pyrrho Wrote: I think that is pretty normal. Everyone I know in real life who is a former Christian felt that way about it.
Precisely why I answered how I did, because I feel the same way. Without God, there is no ultimate meaning.
Why must there be a meaning? What difference does it make to your day to day life?
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RE: If You Were An Atheist
August 28, 2015 at 11:17 am
(August 28, 2015 at 11:10 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (August 19, 2015 at 9:47 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Precisely why I answered how I did, because I feel the same way. Without God, there is no ultimate meaning.
Why must there be a meaning? What difference does it make to your day to day life?
Because deep within I believe we all question and seek answers to four major questions.
Origin
Meaning
Morality
Destiny
Where do I come from?
What gives life meaning?
How do I differentiate between good and bad?
What happens to a human being when he or she dies?
The atheistic worldviews answers to these questions, I find depressing. I think most people have a longing for life after the grave, we feel there is something more. May be not all people, but most.
Atheism says we are a cosmic accident, each person defines their own meaning, each person defines their own good, and then dust. To me, personally, that is depressing.
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RE: If You Were An Atheist
August 28, 2015 at 11:25 am
(August 28, 2015 at 11:17 am)lkingpinl Wrote: (August 28, 2015 at 11:10 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Why must there be a meaning? What difference does it make to your day to day life?
Because deep within I believe we all question and seek answers to four major questions.
Origin
Meaning
Morality
Destiny
Where do I come from?
What gives life meaning?
How do I differentiate between good and bad?
What happens to a human being when he or she dies?
The atheistic worldviews answers to these questions, I find depressing. I think most people have a longing for life after the grave, we feel there is something more. May be not all people, but most.
Atheism says we are a cosmic accident, each person defines their own meaning, each person defines their own good, and then dust. To me, personally, that is depressing.
Phrase of the year:
KingPin for president! Lol. I'm still nominating you.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: If You Were An Atheist
August 28, 2015 at 11:45 am
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(August 28, 2015 at 11:25 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (August 28, 2015 at 11:17 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Because deep within I believe we all question and seek answers to four major questions.
Origin
Meaning
Morality
Destiny
Where do I come from?
What gives life meaning?
How do I differentiate between good and bad?
What happens to a human being when he or she dies?
The atheistic worldviews answers to these questions, I find depressing. I think most people have a longing for life after the grave, we feel there is something more. May be not all people, but most.
Atheism says we are a cosmic accident, each person defines their own meaning, each person defines their own good, and then dust. To me, personally, that is depressing.
Phrase of the year:
KingPin for president! Lol. I'm still nominating you.
Well the problem is I'm not a sleezeball so I don't think I would do well in D.C. 
Although I did just become official of legal age to be nominated. 
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RE: If You Were An Atheist
August 28, 2015 at 11:50 am
(August 28, 2015 at 11:45 am)lkingpinl Wrote: (August 28, 2015 at 11:25 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Phrase of the year:
KingPin for president! Lol. I'm still nominating you.
Well the problem is I'm not a sleezeball so I don't think I would do well in D.C.
Although I did just become official of legal age to be nominated.
But you're soooo cooooool.
I want to like, BE you.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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