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RE: No More Anti-Theists
August 28, 2015 at 2:06 pm
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2015 at 2:07 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
If that's what you were taught, how do you handle a person who believes that it's his duty to kill kafir? Nicely?
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RE: No More Anti-Theists
August 28, 2015 at 7:16 pm
(August 28, 2015 at 10:47 am)Cato Wrote: (August 28, 2015 at 10:18 am)Shuffle Wrote: But the thing is, putting antitheism as your religious views is like saying "I believe in a god."
Bullshit.
I also find it amusing that you are taking issue with the term anti-theist, a term that quite specifically and with great clarity describes a specific view of religion, as a response to a query of someone's religious views. This is all very quixotic. You can be a christian, hindu, muslim, atheist, fairiest, unicornist, apatheist, deist, habolobodingdongist, or whatever the else you want through in -ist onto. You literally can be ANYTHING accept a part of a organized theism, and still be an anti-theist.
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RE: No More Anti-Theists
August 28, 2015 at 7:19 pm
(August 28, 2015 at 11:28 am)Ben Davis Wrote: (August 28, 2015 at 10:14 am)Shuffle Wrote: Ok, so what is your position on the OP?
That my religiosity, religious behaviour and religious identity are 3 separate yet complicit objects so although I hold certain antitheistic views, I'm no more an antitheist than I am an atheist. I prefer to look at it like this: my value systems are atheistic (they have an absence of theistic propositions) and sometimes antitheistic (they can lie in opposition to theistic values), my religiosity is irreligious, my behaviour is secular and my identity is Ben Davis.
When I'm being antitheistic, feel free to say so but remember that it rarely serves to reduce personalities to one-dimensional labels because that ignores people's intellectual complexity and is often patronising. But I said not to do that.
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RE: No More Anti-Theists
August 28, 2015 at 7:29 pm
It really doesn't have anything to do with organization Shuffle. It's a single line item, opposition to theism.
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RE: No More Anti-Theists
August 28, 2015 at 7:33 pm
What now?
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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RE: No More Anti-Theists
August 28, 2015 at 8:42 pm
(August 28, 2015 at 7:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It really doesn't have anything to do with organization Shuffle. It's a single line item, opposition to theism. "...it typically refers to direct opposition to organized religion..."
Thanks wikipedia! The most trusted source on the web since 190never.
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RE: No More Anti-Theists
August 28, 2015 at 8:44 pm
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In that organized religions are typically what...for 900, Alex......?
-The most visible and consequential expressions of -theism-. Do you think that an anti-theist has a problem with a godless organized religion?
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RE: No More Anti-Theists
August 28, 2015 at 9:15 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 10:28 am)Shuffle Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 10:21 am)Rhythm Wrote: Actually,a christian can't, consistently, be an anti-theist...though a great many appear to be so....except in the case of that one particular god of theirs. Just another amusing tick, imo. Christian's can be against the organized religion of christianity. All you need to do to be a christian is believe that Jesus Christ resurrected. That is it. If you believe in that, but do not agree with christianity as a whole, they are a christian anti-theist.
But a theist is not a religionist. Take care not to confuse the two.
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RE: No More Anti-Theists
August 28, 2015 at 9:24 pm
(August 28, 2015 at 9:15 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 10:28 am)Shuffle Wrote: Christian's can be against the organized religion of christianity. All you need to do to be a christian is believe that Jesus Christ resurrected. That is it. If you believe in that, but do not agree with christianity as a whole, they are a christian anti-theist.
But a theist is not a religionist. Take care not to confuse the two.
??? I am sorry, but I don't really understand what you just said.
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RE: No More Anti-Theists
August 28, 2015 at 9:26 pm
(August 28, 2015 at 9:24 pm)Shuffle Wrote: (August 28, 2015 at 9:15 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: But a theist is not a religionist. Take care not to confuse the two.
??? I am sorry, but I don't really understand what you just said. Not all theists are religious.
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