(September 10, 2015 at 12:31 pm)Godschild Wrote:  This has to be the sickest thing I've seen here, you need help and I advise you to run not walk to get it and may God have mercy on you. There are so many things wrong with this one has trouble trying to find a starting point, anyone who would not just suggest murder but to advocate it is sick beyond belief.

GC

GC, you see that thing up there? That thing that's soaring waaay up there over your head?


That's the fucking point.

(September 10, 2015 at 2:34 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Hi Rob.

Yes, it is true that we believe Heaven is the ultimate happiness and fulfillment in the next life. But that does not mean we think this life does not matter, or that people don't have inherent rights, like the right to life, as Napo said on the first page. We believe each human life is sacred and precious and thus should be protected against having their inherent rights taken away, even if that means they would go on to a happier existence.

People killed their children all the time in the Bible and it was never considered to be sinful.  The crazy old coot Abraham got rewarded for it.  Some people ate their babies and it wasn't a big deal.  People stoned their children.  God killed his son Jesus.  So according to the Bible it's fine and dandy to kill and even eat your own children.  Just don't kill and eat other people's children.

(September 10, 2015 at 2:12 pm)Lucanus Wrote:

(September 10, 2015 at 12:31 pm)Godschild Wrote:  This has to be the sickest thing I've seen here, you need help and I advise you to run not walk to get it and may God have mercy on you. There are so many things wrong with this one has trouble trying to find a starting point, anyone who would not just suggest murder but to advocate it is sick beyond belief.

GC

Sick dodge, bruh

That wasn't a dodge, it is the truth and if you don't think it's sick you need to join him in getting help.

GC

Agree, it is sick man!
The sickest part is it's all an extrapolation of the bible!

All it means is that the barbaric goat shaggers who wrote the bible had very low morals in their day...
We have all evolved since then, except well, the bible? It's stuck on ver 1.0

(September 10, 2015 at 10:53 am)Divinity Wrote: Anyway, I don't really believe fetuses are human.  They aren't human until they're born.  We don't start counting our age from the moment of conception.  We start counting it from the fucking moment we're born.

Because there's a big difference between a hour prior to birth and an hour following it. Oh yeah, there's a birth certificate! And a birthday! A very articulate and well-thought out argument.

GC: You are being sickened by the logical conclusions of your own belief system and have thus totally proved my point. If your beliefs differ from those I have implied, or if I have made a mistake in my logic, please point it out.

CL: Thank you for your answer As others have said, why is it at all important for anyone to experience this far inferior life for what is ultimately 0% of their existence, and in doing so risk spending the entire 100% of their existence in the wrong place? We have to make decisions on children's behalf all the time without their consent when they are very young, for their own benefit. Surely this is the best decision we could possibly make. They wake up in paradise, never knowing a second of suffering. What could be better? Would they really complain about this, and demand a chance to suffer in this world and possibly miss out on the paradise altogether?

And then there's my third point, about picking the right religion. Even if your kid lives the perfect life and does everything God says, they may still pick the wrong religion and end up in hell. Are you happy taking that gamble on their behalf? You can hardly say someone chooses Hell if they've simply been praying to the wrong God.

Pyrrho Wrote:What robvalue is suggesting follows logically from what many Christians claim.

There's nothing logical about it, he used no logic, only a lot of nonsense. Taking what the Bible says, he posted nothing but illogical contradicting statements.

Pyrrho Wrote:Many claim (contrary to the Bible) that children go to heaven if they are killed.  If that were true, then killing them would be doing them a favor.

The commandment "Thou shall not murder," is one of many reasons that kind of illogical thought is sick.

Pyrrho Wrote: It is the Christians who have the sick, twisted beliefs that entail what robvalue is suggesting.  And robvalue is wanting them to think about their sick beliefs; he is not wanting people to murder their children.

What twisted belief, that children who die before they come to an understanding about purposely sinning against God. Yeah that really sounds twisted. I don't think he would want parents killing their children, to suggest such a thing is sick, Christians know that killing them would be against God's will for the child, Christians are the ones using logical thought, robvalue is trying to make a mockery of what we believe, may God have mercy on him and you to if you believe what he posted.

Pyrrho Wrote:Of course, the Bible clearly states that one must have faith in Jesus, and infants do not because they are incapable of thinking such things.  But that is irrelevant to the idiot Christians who claim that they go to heaven.  If children did go to heaven, then killing them would be doing them a favor.

I see you are as sick, you need help just as badly. Parents are not in authority to decide for their children when it comes to salvation, that is a personal decision only a individual can make. By the way your knowledge of the scriptures is very lacking, there will be those in heaven that never heard of Christ. If you and others had a lick of sense you would study the Bible before making fools of yourselves, though I'm pretty sure you would anyhow.

GC

(September 10, 2015 at 3:31 pm)djokica8 Wrote:

(September 10, 2015 at 12:31 pm)Godschild Wrote:  This has to be the sickest thing I've seen here, you need help and I advise you to run not walk to get it and may God have mercy on you. There are so many things wrong with this one has trouble trying to find a starting point, anyone who would not just suggest murder but to advocate it is sick beyond belief.

GC

You just said bad things about him, not one answer. It looks like you are avoiding questions, are you.

I said it was so ridiculous that I didn't know where to begin and it's so ridiculous I do not see why I need to answer, if you can't see what's wrong with what he said then I pity you.

GC

(September 11, 2015 at 1:40 am)ignoramus Wrote: Agree, it is sick man!
The sickest part is it's all an extrapolation of the bible!

All it means is that the barbaric goat shaggers who wrote the bible had very low morals in their day...
We have all evolved since then, except well, the bible?  It's stuck on ver 1.0

 The Bible never says parents should kill their children so they can go to heaven, only sick illogical people like rodvalue can claim such a ridiculous view.

GC

(September 11, 2015 at 2:06 am)robvalue Wrote: GC: You are being sickened by the logical conclusions of your own belief system and have thus totally proved my point. If your beliefs differ from those I have implied, or if I have made a mistake in my logic, please point it out.

 I did when I said you were a sick individual, you wouldn't accept what the Bible says on this ridiculous illogical sickening crap. How do I know this, I've shown you before what the Bible says on subjects and you've always rejected what is clearly stated.

GC