(September 19, 2015 at 11:52 am)Stimbo Wrote:

(September 19, 2015 at 11:50 am)Rekeisha Wrote: Oh  becasue the things he told me were in the bible

Can't "he" tell you anything that isn't in the bible?

Yes He has but it won't contradict the words bible.

So how do you know that it's "God"?

(September 19, 2015 at 6:08 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work ,

With 40,000 schisms, kinda tricky to follow the Jesus dude with out a little heads up from Him regarding which one of the 40,000 has it right.

I think we've also eliminated the A/S/K method, as it doesn't pare down the choices sufficiently, and also, I've noticed, A/S/K never leads anyone to anything except scripture cherry picking. If A/S/K could at least on one occasion yield a religionite with Literalist stripes it wouldn't have a 100% failure rate.

It is simple to follow God just trust and obey Him

What makes you think it's a "Him"?

(September 18, 2015 at 10:15 am)Rekeisha Wrote: I believe you thougt you were a christian. If you look back then you will see I wrote that I believed you.

Also your statments of religins are an over generlization. If the studies that you are kind of referncing treated them in the same manner I am dubious of their findings.

I don't feel like prayers are fulfilled they have been fulfilled specifically. There are christians who keep prayer books in order to track their full fillment.

Also all those who say they are a theist don't all believe in God. I would say in america a lot of people give a mental nod to God but have never accpeted Him as their Lord and savior.

i am not mad or angry that you don't believe my testemony because it isn't my job to get you to believe. I am not here to promote myself I am just a person. My job is to testify about the truth and pray for you. I do both. God love you and everyone on this forum and everyone on the planet so much that He gave His only begotten Son. He lived a sinless life and died a humlitating and paiful death in order to free you Mr. Redbeard from your sin. If you repent He will give you everlasting life and free you from the bonds of sin. That is the truth no matter how you feel about it.

Nope. Sorry. You've clearly just been indoctrinated into believing and repeating the same garbage, no matter what anyone says to you or shows you. If only your mind hadn't been forced shut and locked tight at such a young age, you might be able to see and experience reality as it truly is. The only thing that can save you from your ignorance is to open your mind and accept reality as your personal lord and savior, so you can begin a personal relationship with reality and start mending your poor, tortured, broken mind. You need reality to save you from your ignorance, and that's the truth no matter how you feel about it.


Also, you're talking to an apostate preacher's kid. Your christian mind tricks won't work on me. Anything you could possibly tell me about the Gospel is something I've already told at least 100 other people myself. Simply repeating your Chick-Tract spiel is useless and just makes it more clear that you've been indoctrinated into repeating scripted drivel instead of critically thinking and formulating answers. I'm not mad or angry that you won't accept reality. I'm just here to testify about the truth.

(September 20, 2015 at 2:12 pm)Rekeisha Wrote:

(September 19, 2015 at 6:08 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work ,

With 40,000 schisms, kinda tricky to follow the Jesus dude with out a little heads up from Him regarding which one of the 40,000 has it right.

I think we've also eliminated the A/S/K method, as it doesn't pare down the choices sufficiently, and also, I've noticed, A/S/K never leads anyone to anything except scripture cherry picking.  If A/S/K could at least on one occasion yield a religionite with Literalist stripes it wouldn't have a 100% failure rate.

It is simple to follow God just trust and obey Him

How the fuck did that simple message mutate into 40,000 schisms ??

You HAVE to be wrong.  And being wrong about Salvation sucks.

Your just begging for a red hot 1957 Cadillac (big tail finned mother fucker) to get shoved up your rectum by Satan Himself for guessing wrong.

Rekeisha Wrote: 
If He told me what I wanted to hear I would be asleep right now. My house would always be a mess. I would be a shut in and never speak to my neighbors. I would be divorced and everyone would be against me. Also I would have probably let loose a couple of times on you guys, but probably not because I wouldn't even spend time on this.  So no God does not tell me what I want to here. That is why God is good because he tells me what I need to hear and enables me to acomplish His good plan. His death and ressurection has given me a new life and this life is good. I am grateful for all he has done and called me to do. Hr is far better than anything I could ever make up.

Also I am not on my computer and can not see your signature.

You do know you just admitted that without 'god', you'd be a smelly shut-in antisocial whore who yells at strangers over the internet? Is that how you picture all atheist women or do you just know yourself so well that you know where things would go if you just "let go". Well, hate to break it to you, but even if you de-Saviorized, you'd still have the inconvenience of living life, to perform.  
I think your problem is you identify self preservation thoughts (which are as a matter of faCt, a production of evolution), for god. You associate all positive thoughts with god even if they're just your own! 
See I have voice I my head too, that says get up and take care of yourself and take a shower Luckie (no one likes to be or be around smelly people). Do the laundry Luckie (again, hygiene is important for survival). Don't sleep with strangers, Luckie--it's just not proper in a society to do that, is it and you might get a disease! :

You and I may have differing reasons for doing something (like apparently you take showers for Jesus) and I take them to be clean--but they're the same thoughts. It's simple evolution, my dear. We all know what's best for us based upon the information we have at hand. My informed decision about the bible being nonsense and the earth as we know it a result of evolution--means I  actually did the research and you didn't. 

Any other examples of what you believe to be god speaking to you?

Here's my signature, btw. This is the god you follow. Old Testament and New Testament are one and the same god. How loving, yes? And I do believe you missed my point on my other post. You offered me prayers.
Let me rephrase it. Just to be clear. For god so loved the world, he gave his one and only son up to die as a blood sacrifice for mans sins. That's your belief. What I'm saying is that Adam and Eve never sinned to begin with, if god gave them free will then it's his fault they used it and enabled them to disobey him by setting them up for failure in the first place. As they always say, curiousity killed the cat. God made the cat curious therefore god killed the cat.
Do you truly believe it then to be justice, for all of mankind to inherit a made up punishment? And what of the retribution? Why must there be blood sacrifice in the first place? If god is not bound by any rules but his own, why would he demand the blood of his beloved son when all he needed to do was forgive the imperfect beings he created, in the first place? Makes no sense. None. Add biblical inaccuracies (there wasn't even a city much less a town of Nazareth when Jesus was born!), historical refutation to Jesus' origins, and research into the writers of the books of the biblical texts themselves (along with varying degrees of mistranslations that happened to suit the current social and economic status)--and you'll see a clear history of an ever evolving text used to manipulate and control the masses, whilst making billions of dollars in profit. Did you know Mother Theresa enjoyed watching the suffering of those in her power to help? Imstead she send all the money raised to help the poor and siphoned it straight to the Vatican. At the very best, she was mentally ill and at the very worst? A Monster. Additionally, did you know Hitler was a Catholic? His ultimate goal included purging the Catholic Church of those who would defy him? He truly believed he was doing gods work! Speeches, lots of them. Google it. It's true, all of this is verifiable and has been posted on these very forums with historical references, and unbiased sources. Open your eyes, woman.

Jesus Wrote:"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

Luke 12:51-52
51 "Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division." 52 "For from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three"

Matthew 10:34-35
34 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." 35 "For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law."

Additionally I retread your post and I'm wondering.. If it weren't for god are you saying you would divorce your husband? Why do you care what others think about you divorcing your husband if not for religious reasons? I ask because my mom spent 20yrs of her life being despicably treated, degraded , and humiliated by my father as he waved the bible in her face and told her she would go to hell if she left him.
Are you indeed in the same trap she fell into?

(September 21, 2015 at 1:24 am)Luckie Wrote: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets.  I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.  Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place."  (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."  (Luke 16:17 NAB)

Wait, so the Old Testament is still 100% valid, so says Jesus?
SWEET! Leviticus 25:44-46 says I can own slaves, as long as they're not my own people. 
I'm sick to death of mowing my own lawn or having to pay someone to do it.
And to think, I was about to invest in a new lawn tractor!

(September 21, 2015 at 1:30 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:

(September 21, 2015 at 1:24 am)Luckie Wrote: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets.  I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.  Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place."  (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."  (Luke 16:17 NAB)

Wait, so the Old Testament is still 100% valid, so says Jesus?
SWEET! Leviticus 25:44-46 says I can own slaves, as long as they're not my own people. 
I'm sick to death of mowing my own lawn or having to pay someone to do it.
And to think, I was about to invest in a new lawn tractor!

Yep, feel free to do whatevvvvver you want. You could even (if you're in the market for a wife), rape a girl you like and pay a fine. Then she will become your wife!