The problem seems to lie in the ready and easy access to guns by the mentally ill.  Hey.  'Murrica.

I haven't seen reports that the shooter was mentally ill.

(October 2, 2015 at 2:09 pm)alpha male Wrote: I haven't seen reports that the shooter was mentally ill.

People like to assume that because someone kills several people, they must have been mentally ill. Unfortunately, that's not always the case.

Oh wait, "ze muslim" terrorists didn't do it ?
The shooter must be insane then..no no no not a terrorist..the poor soul had a brain damage..

hahahahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahahah xD

(October 2, 2015 at 2:09 pm)alpha male Wrote: I haven't seen reports that the shooter was mentally ill.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/.../73206986/

Quote:Mercer also referred to several mass casualty shootings, including one in Roanoke, Va., in August that left a television news reporter and cameraman dead, in a blog linked to an e-mail address he used, according to The Daily Beast.

"I have noticed that so many people like (the Virginia shooter) are alone and unknown yet when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows you they are," he wrote, according to The Daily Beast. "Seems like the more people you kill, the more you're in the spotlight."

Seems pretty fucking crazy to me.

Still not mentally ill, though.

Here is the problem with this sicko's logic. He claimed he would end up in hell, problem is thinking athiests don't buy into super heros or super villians.

(October 2, 2015 at 9:38 am)Brian37 Wrote: The difference is, just like when the Atheist shot the Muslims in NC, the vast majority of atheists didn't use "not all atheists" doge like Christians and Muslims, most of us said " There is never an excuse "

I don't give one fuck what your label is or what you excuse is, you are a sick fuck if you think mass murder of unarmed people is a valid form of protest.

Lol, I went on facebook just about 2 minutes ago and the first thing on my news feed was an Atheist friend of mine (not from this site) saying this: 

"Dear Christians, I am an atheist and I would never kill anyone. Don't persecute many for the actions of one, thanks."

...And then I came here and read your post. Just thought it was funny lol. 

(October 2, 2015 at 2:24 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Still not mentally ill, though.

Reports now coming out that he had aspergers. The vast majority of the other mass shooters were suffering from various mental illnesses as well. None were getting proper help and as I recall many had their families come out afterwards saying they were desperately trying to get them help but couldn't.

(October 2, 2015 at 1:32 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: [quote='MentalGiant' pid='1069830' dateline='1443793521']

Statistically speaking, mentally ill people are no more likely to be dangerous than the average person. While I agree that we need better mental health care in our country, your laying the blame for these tragedies on mental illness is misguided and does nothing but further stigmatize the mentally ill.

No one is saying all mentally ill people are inherently dangerous, but statistically speaking, mass shooters tend to also be mentally ill. Correlation without causation? I think not. The same can't be said of all violent criminals, but certain types of violent crimes tend to be committed overwhelmingly by mentally ill individuals NOT receiving proper treatment. Mentally ill people do not function at the same capacity as people who are not mentally ill. Some may be able to function ok on their own, but most need extra help they may not seek for themselves because they do not perceive themselves to be mentally ill or feel self medication with alcohol/street drugs is enough. To suggest we step up how we treat the mentally ill to make sure they are being adequately monitored and treated is not stigmatizing them, it is protecting the interests of all parties involved (the individual and the general public). I would imagine better laws regarding mental health care and better abilities for families to get help for an individual with diminished capacity to seek help for themselves would prevent many of these types of incidents.

Quote:Reports now coming out that he had aspergers. The vast majority of the other mass shooters were suffering from various mental illnesses as well. None were getting proper help and as I recall many had their families come out afterwards saying they were desperately trying to get them help but couldn't. 

Asperger's syndrome being a confirmed mental illness known for its outbursts of psychotic violence.