Jhc asks himself how he missed this thread? Why why why?

So much material! Grist for the mill has been in short supply and with Randy getting the boot, religious idiocy has been in short supply.

Love the raving lunatic theists! Love!

Please do go on.

(October 3, 2015 at 12:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:If creationists can’t do science, then why do Kent Hovind and Duane T. Gish, who are creation scientists, have professional degrees in science?

You're right on Gish, wrong on Hovind, who has no scientific degrees or credentials whatsoever.  Gish had done some creditable scientific work, but he was dead wrong regarding biological evolution.

Quote:If Christianity is false, then why is it popular?

Popularity is not a measure of truth.  Astrology is popular, for example.

Boru

Lets make the question simple,if creationist's can't be scientist's why are there creation scientist's with professional degrees in science?
Examples
Dr. Georgia Purdom-Molecular Geneticist
Dr. David Menton-Biologist,Anatomist
Dr. Danny R. Faulkner-Astronomer
Dr. Nathaniel T. Jeanson-Research Biologist

How do you know that he was dead wrong?

If Christianity is false, then why is it popular? Why does it have impact on the people?

Quote:The problem you and your wife can't have children doesn't mean then it's OK for homosexuality as God condemns it.Homosexuals are told to stay chaste but they can live together without engaging in the sexual act.

Homosexuality is not OK,because God said it isn't.

Bzzt, you lose, bungstopper. You went on and on, page after page in this thread, making the idiotic point that homosexuality can't be right because such a union doesn't produce children. Now you've switched gears to say that homosexuality is wrong because God condemns it (not entirely correct - the people who invented God condemn homosexuality).

But you don't get off (pun intended) that easily. You still need to say why infertile people having sex is ok, but gay people having sex is not. I realize that your head is so far up your arse on this issue that you're giving yourself a colonoscopy, but try to understand and answer the question.

Boru

(October 3, 2015 at 12:31 pm)Thedetester Wrote:

(October 3, 2015 at 12:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You're right on Gish, wrong on Hovind, who has no scientific degrees or credentials whatsoever.  Gish had done some creditable scientific work, but he was dead wrong regarding biological evolution.



Popularity is not a measure of truth.  Astrology is popular, for example.

Boru

How do you know that he was dead wrong?

If Christianity is false, then why is it popular? Why does it have impact on the people?

I know that Duane Gish was wrong, because evolution is an established scientific fact, beyond all rational argument. To deny that evolution takes place is so perverse that it disqualifies ANY one as a legitimate scientist.

The Father Christmas myth is false, as well as popular. Notions of Aryan supremacy are false and popular. Belief in Bigfoot is false and popular. All of these have impacts on people.

A more direct answer to your question is that Christianity is popular because it offers hope, the promise of reward, and a feeling of superiority. It is rather like a theological blowjob.

Question for you: If Christianity is true, why are the majority of people in the world NOT Christians?

Boru

(October 3, 2015 at 12:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:The problem you and your wife can't have children doesn't mean then it's OK for homosexuality as God condemns it.Homosexuals are told to stay chaste but they can live together without engaging in the sexual act.

Homosexuality is not OK,because God said it isn't.

Bzzt, you lose, bungstopper.  You went on and on, page after page in this thread, making the idiotic point that homosexuality can't be right because such a union doesn't produce children.  Now you've switched gears to say that homosexuality is wrong because God condemns it (not entirely correct - the people who invented God condemn homosexuality).

But you don't get off (pun intended) that easily.  You still need to say why infertile people having sex is ok, but gay people having sex is not.  I realize that your head is so far up your arse on this issue that you're giving yourself a colonoscopy, but try to understand and answer the question.

Boru

No,
I said,homosexuality does not produce children to get you thinking,then I said God condemns homosexuality.If you say God was invented that just your belief. 

infertile people having sex is OK,because God does not condemn heterosexual's.Consider Abraham and Sarah they were infertile,but God didn't stop them having intercourse did he?later as Abraham prayed he gave them children.

Having that shit programmed into your brain before you can think makes it "popular". Having people scaring/beating the shit out of you for even asking questions makes it "popular".

(October 3, 2015 at 12:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(October 3, 2015 at 12:31 pm)Thedetester Wrote: How do you know that he was dead wrong?

If Christianity is false, then why is it popular? Why does it have impact on the people?

I know that Duane Gish was wrong, because evolution is an established scientific fact, beyond all rational argument.  To deny that evolution takes place is so perverse that it disqualifies ANY one as a legitimate scientist.

The Father Christmas myth is false, as well as popular.  Notions of Aryan supremacy are false and popular.  Belief in Bigfoot is false and popular.  All of these have impacts on people.

A more direct answer to your question is that Christianity is popular because it offers hope, the promise of reward, and a feeling of superiority.  It is rather like a theological blowjob.

Question for you:  If Christianity is true, why are the majority of people in the world NOT Christians?

Boru

If Christianity is true, why are the majority of people in the world NOT Christians?

We have many religions in the world,and most of them point to hope,now mankind can get fooled and some will follow other religion's but through that and then we have unbelief in another group of people such as the atheist's and the agnostic's that's you .But God accepts those who seek him in grace,but how do I know Christianity is true?
Of all the leaders in the world, Jesus alone claimed that he was God himself and backed that up with miracles and rising from the dead. If those things happened, then our quest for God stops with him.Christianity is popular because,Jesus disciples went all over the world to preach and this is also a logical evidence for Christianity.

Whenever we put the Bible to the test archaeologically, it has been confirmed over and over again. We have been able to verify many details that are merely incidental. Legend isn't like this. Eg. the pools at Bethesda [John 5:2].

Thedetester, if you are actually a Catholic and not a Poe, then why do you deny evolution? Your church made its peace with biology years ago and has officially held a stance that evolution happened according to God's providential plan. Do you care so little about the teachings of your church, or does it just take a long time for news to reach you in your ass?

And you have once again mentioned archaeology. Quit fucking around and give us some examples (more than the pools at Bethesda) of archaeological finds you think provide compelling evidence for thinking the Bible is completely trustworthy (or, what the hell, true for the most part -- take your pick). But before you do, you should understand that virtually no one ever has said that there is no overlap between Biblical narratives and history, geography, and what can be learned from archaeology. Most of us expect that further investigation will confirm certain elements of the Bible. Why wouldn't it? Ooh, they found the pools at Bethesda! Big fucking deal. I'd be surprised if there weren't pools since it's a fairly mundane claim, and I'm glad they uncovered it. But when it comes to something really big and presumably the sort of event that would have left plenty of evidence to be found, like the 40-year wandering in the desert as described in "Exodus"? Not a damn thing, despite painstaking efforts by teams of archaeologists combing the desert for decades. Nada. Zilch. Zip. What you need to understand is that a multitude of verified mundane facts (e.g., pools) does not provide you with sufficient evidence to jump to the conclusion that the more fantastical elements of your holy book are true.

But I'm the one who is actually talking to a wall, aren't I?

(October 3, 2015 at 12:24 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: Grist for the mill has been in short supply and with Randy getting the boot, religious idiocy has been in short supply.

 

Take comfort, Jesus. Religious idiocy is never in short supply. There's more than enough for all of us, and there always will be.

I promise.

(October 3, 2015 at 12:51 pm)Thedetester Wrote: If Christianity is true, why are the majority of people in the world NOT Christians?

We have many religions in the world,and most of them point to hope,now mankind can get fooled and some will follow other religion's but through that and then we have unbelief in another group of people such as the atheist's and the agnostic's that's you .But God accepts those who seek him in grace,but how do I know Christianity is true?
Of all the leaders in the world, Jesus alone claimed that he was God himself and backed that up with miracles and rising from the dead. If those things happened, then our quest for God stops with him.Christianity is popular because,Jesus disciples went all over the world to preach and this is also a logical evidence for Christianity.

Whenever we put the Bible to the test archaeologically, it has been confirmed over and over again. We have been able to verify many details that are merely incidental. Legend isn't like this. Eg. the pools at Bethesda [John 5:2].

Bold mine.

Interesting that you chose "If" in that phrase and not something more substantial. Such as "when". Me thinks you may have doubts yourself.