(October 9, 2015 at 1:35 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:

(October 9, 2015 at 1:03 pm)Drich Wrote: get over yourself you self righteous b-hole. AIDS and HIV are two separate things. AIDS Describes an immune deficiency that most of the time is a direct result of advanced HIV infection. But, is not always the case. In 1990 whatever when I was diagnoised with AIDS they only looked at my white cell count and told me it was very low, Which is AIDS. So I was given an HIV test and that came back negative. Before my cancer scare I thought I might have been a "Super controller" (If your not familiar with the term with all you AIDS work, that is someone who is 'healed of AIDS with no outside help.)

Who said anything about HIV being the same as AIDS?

Quote:But given all the recent testing I have had and my recent spike in white cells it seems that my body had issue regulating my white cell count. Because after a year and series of scans tests and several very invasive proceedures to procure biopsy material (which also uncovered my burst/now scared over appendix) I have been found cancer free. Even though I show all the warning signs of that. My hematologist told me it was very likely my AIDS Experience and My Cancer Experience stems from the same root cause. which they can not identify.

In my very first thread I make mention of my AIDS Experience, and have consistently backed this story every time it has been challenged. Why? Not to prove a point, but because it is true. Because this is apart of how God had worked in my life and apart of my foundation for my beliefs. therefore it is required of me to share and explain when ever asked.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-11671-page-14.html post 135

In other words, you don't have, nor did you ever have AIDS, let alone an "AIDS Experience", nor did you have cancer.

I don't think you're even aware you're lying.

You know I do truly try to stay out of your.. silly arguments, and first world problems. However this was just too much.

First you point out that no one made a distinction between AIDS and HIV.. IDK, maybe you just cant read between the lines, or maybe you can't see the implied point I was making. (the later being clearly true because of your later comment)

Next You conclude that I did not have AIDS (Again IDK what you've based this on other than what I have said.) But your assumption being I don't or never did have AIDS because I did not have HIV... (Which points back to the reason I made the point about the difference between AIDS and HIV)

AGAIN, IF AIDS and HIV are Not the same thing and IF you can have one with out the Other, then how can you tell me I never Had AIDS?

AIDS is a extremely low white cell count which I had, and subsequently was given a HIV test.
Leukemia is initally identified by a extremely high white cell count, which this time last year (and now) I have.

a male should have a 5000 to 10000 white cell count per uL of blood. With my AIDS diagnosis it dropped below 200 which was the reason for the skin leasions. Now (at last check in the spring) it was 28,000+ (and going higher.) This and a certain cancer marker was the cause for extensive/dozens of blood tests, prostate biopsy, bone marrow biopsy, genetic cancer scan, CT scan, running a camera into my bladder and pumping it with 1.5 liters of fluid, a Urologist frantically telling me to get my affairs in order because his test were clear meant I definatly had leukemia, and 3 months with a hematologist and UF cancer center in Orlando, before he could tell me he did not know what it was, but it was definatly not cancer.. Yet, and to come back in 9 months need to check my white cell count again (Dec 20th, because according to Dr Hajdenberg "9 months is long enough to gestate a baby, it should be long enough to grow cancer.. ha ha.")
 Who is from South America but has a German-ish accent...


Again I had an AIDS Experience because my T-cell count dropped below 200, and I did indeed go throw every invasive procedure a cancer patient has except Radiation therpy which is not off the table completely yet with my CANCER Scare.
The AIDS Doctors I no longer have any paper work for, but I can indeed show All sorts of paper work for every procedure I have gone through with this cancer scare.

You guys who challenge God for not healing people anymore like he use to, can't seem to stand the idea that he might still be doing that very thing.

(October 9, 2015 at 1:45 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Wait, Drich's "AIDS experience" was him reasonably freaking out due to a false positive from a blood test?  And he attributes the proper results to god saving him rather than the doctors being smart enough to run a few more tests to confirm/deny the original diagnosis?

LMFAO

Again no. AIDS is determined by counting white cells. HIV is just one cause of AIDS. It is not the only cause. I tested positive for AIDS, just not HIV

(October 9, 2015 at 2:34 pm)alpha male Wrote: Way to go on the homophobic slur! 

Silly Christian the term "Homophobic" only describes someone of faith, who speaks negatively of anything gay.

(October 9, 2015 at 3:19 pm)Drich Wrote: You guys who challenge God for not healing people anymore like he use to, can't seem to stand the idea that he might still be doing that very thing.

Appeal to motive. Irrelevant until you can demonstrate ulterior intention.

As to your healing story...

Let's grant that you had this awful disease and that you were healed in the manner you describe, by the Hebrew god. Why should anyone else believe in such things based on your experience?

(October 9, 2015 at 3:22 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 9, 2015 at 2:34 pm)alpha male Wrote: Way to go on the homophobic slur! 

Silly Christian the term "Homophobic" only describes someone of faith, who speaks negatively of anything gay.

No, it tends to get used for anti-gay assholes, regardless of religious affiliation or lack thereof.

(October 9, 2015 at 1:45 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(October 9, 2015 at 1:09 pm)Irrational Wrote: Look up the doctrine of original sin. This isn't an uncommon belief among Christians.

I'm well aware of the doctrine. I'm disputing your claim that most Christians believe people are damned only for original sin.

Ok, putting aside the Protestants:

The majority of Christians are Roman Catholics who blindly accept whatever the Vatican tells them. Maybe I shouldn't have said/implied most Christians believe because most of them are just going along with what the Church says.

But that's besides the point. Someone who isn't infected with a sinful nature can live without sinning. So such a person cannot be damned. Yet, the Church says we are regardless of whether we sin or not because of original sin. Hence, do what the Church tells you to be saved and all that shit.

(October 9, 2015 at 3:24 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(October 9, 2015 at 3:19 pm)Drich Wrote: You guys who challenge God for not healing people anymore like he use to, can't seem to stand the idea that he might still be doing that very thing.

Appeal to motive. Irrelevant until you can demonstrate ulterior intention.

As to your healing story...

Let's grant that you had this awful disease and that you were healed in the manner you describe, by the Hebrew god. Why should anyone else believe in such things based on your experience?

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Prophecy: A/S/K and biblespam in 3... 2... 1...

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We had this discussion remember, this is what started the whole You pray 'whatever it takes, even if it means you get AIDS/Cancer, and I will do the same.' Which morphed into "Drich is praying everyone on the forum is to get cancer."

So to answer your question: They shouldn't. My experiences is what it took for me to go from faith to belief. I prayed that God show me the truth, and I was willing to do whatever it took.. The AIDS experience was the first step in that journey. because at the time it was a death sentence with no hope of recovery. This was the first time God took me well past any help any one could offer and set me right again. That process of being beyond the reach of any physical help anyone could offer leaves us at the point where we know that God himself will be the only thing that can bring us out of a given mess. Maybe not once or twice, but a lifetime of this tempers resolve and deepens understanding of God.

Again my Health is just one aspect of being beyond the help of others. I went through it again with my wife, and her addiction(s) and like a light switch a 10 year herion addiction all was turned off. once again with the establishment of the business (A Complete stranger handing me 25K to get started) To 15 years of trials and blessings from that business.

All of these are all things God has done for me, to put me in a position to be unshakable in what I know to be absolutely true. Why? Because I wanted/needed to know before I could solidify my beliefs, and act on my beliefs.

That said, I know I am nothing special. I was not born to a certain family, I grew up hard, and was hard on believers for a very long time. All I did was honestly sought answers and was faithful to what I was given. Which means if some of you who really have been given gifts ever get your heads out of your b-holes Your journeys would no doubt put what I have experienced to shame.

That's the key though. It has to be your journey, Your cancer story and Your miraculous recovery, and 100 or 1000 other impossible things that situations demand or scream God's involvement over the course of your whole life. It's not just a one time "Dear God, if your out there give me a sign. Amen" challenge.

My story's are what it took for me. I was a doubting Thomas. Jesus Commends those who can live by faith, but at the same time He does not condemn the Doubting Thomas' of the world. Rather He did EXACTLY What it took to get Thomas to believe. We just have to hang in their long enough, and let things get dark enough before we can get to a place where we can know without a doubt that if you get out of a given trial, it will only be because the Hand of God pulled you out.

(October 9, 2015 at 3:27 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:

(October 9, 2015 at 3:22 pm)Drich Wrote: Silly Christian the term "Homophobic" only describes someone of faith, who speaks negatively of anything gay.

No, it tends to get used for anti-gay assholes, regardless of religious affiliation or lack thereof.

So your calling KUSA a homophobe or again, does he get a pass on his comments because he does not believe in God?

(October 9, 2015 at 1:03 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 9, 2015 at 11:56 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: If that's the case, it really pisses me off. 

I'm literally leaving right this moment to drive an AIDS patient to a doctor's appointment, as part of volunteer work I do with the local AIDS charity organization.

I'll be back in a couple of hours, perhaps less.

Sick sonofabitch, if he used pretendending he has AIDS just to make a point.

get over yourself you self righteous b-hole. AIDS and HIV are two separate things. AIDS Describes an immune deficiency that most of the time is a direct result of advanced HIV infection. But, is not always the case. In 1990 whatever when I was diagnoised with AIDS they only looked at my white cell count and told me it was very low, Which is AIDS. So I was given an HIV test and that came back negative. Before my cancer scare I thought I might have been a "Super controller" (If your not familiar with the term with all you AIDS work, that is someone who is 'healed of AIDS with no outside help.)

But given all the recent testing I have had and my recent spike in white cells it seems that my body had issue regulating my white cell count. Because after a year and series of scans tests and several very invasive proceedures to procure biopsy material (which also uncovered my burst/now scared over appendix) I have been found cancer free. Even though I show all the warning signs of that. My hematologist told me it was very likely my AIDS Experience and My Cancer Experience stems from the same root cause. which they can not identify.

In my very first thread I make mention of my AIDS Experience, and have consistently backed this story every time it has been challenged. Why? Not to prove a point, but because it is true. Because this is apart of how God had worked in my life and apart of my foundation for my beliefs. therefore it is required of me to share and explain when ever asked.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-11671-page-14.html post 135

I'm back from the hospital. Took my bud (the patient) out for some Mexican food at a place he recommended. Good stuff.

Are you serious? Not familiar with the term? I can literally list the identified genes in the HIV virus, as well as their common mutation-paths; it's what my degree is in, and it's work I've been doing for 20 years, now. If you know so much about HIV, then you'll know that "false positives" happen all the time, and in early versions of the ELISA test, it was a rate as high as 5-7% by some estimates.

A "super-controller" is not  someone who has been "healed", it's a person whose CD4+ cells lack or have a mutated type of a particular glycoprotein on the surface of the cell, which makes it difficult for HIV to bind to the GP120 and GP41 coreceptors and enter the cell. As a result, they still have HIV in their system, but it does not progress to destroy the entire immune system (and thus become AIDS, after they have dropped below 200 absolute CD4+ count or have acquired two opportunistic infections).

If your immune system drops because of factors other than the Human Immunodeficiency Virus, then it is not AIDS, it is simply an immune deficiency. Literally dozens of factors can cause or contribute to a low immune count. If your doctors told you a low CD4+ cell count meant AIDS, then they are criminally negligent.

Incidentally, I have had  cancer, the real kind, and had my left testicle removed, as well as undergone two months of intense radiation therapy as a result, during which process I received damage to my kidneys and liver.