(October 12, 2015 at 11:21 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 11:15 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: First, your ignorance is showing. Atheism is the lack of belief in gawd(s), not the belief there are none.

Second, you think I actually supported your argument?
Of course, only by strawmanning what I actually said.

no i simply used your argument to support my point , a doctor without accurate knowledge will misdiagnose . exactly what i was saying .

You strawmanned my argument. Put whatever spin on it to help you sleep tonight, but that's a rather dishonest tactic.

(October 12, 2015 at 11:21 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 11:15 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: First, your ignorance is showing. Atheism is the lack of belief in gawd(s), not the belief there are none.

Second, you think I actually supported your argument?
Of course, only by strawmanning what I actually said.

no i simply used your argument to support my point , a doctor without accurate knowledge will misdiagnose . exactly what i was saying .

define strawman.  to use your words, go google it

(October 12, 2015 at 11:25 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 11:21 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: no i simply used your argument to support my point , a doctor without accurate knowledge will misdiagnose . exactly what i was saying .

You strawmanned my argument. Put whatever spin on it to help you sleep tonight, but that's a rather dishonest tactic.

sorry just seen a perfect opportunity to illustrate my point so i grabbed it nothing else was working wooosh going over everyones heads i was desperate .

(October 12, 2015 at 11:24 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 11:18 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: they might have studied the body but they dont treat the body , they treat the mind .

I find it truly amusing that you keep arguing your opinion as fact in a thread where a certified MD (no, not drfuzzy) is trying to give you the real facts.

Correct, my PhD is in another field.  There are MD's and psychiatrists in our midst, however.   

(October 12, 2015 at 11:22 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 11:14 pm)Beccs Wrote: Just don't trust a shrink to perform surgery.

"I'm about to cut you open.  Tell me how you feel about that."

LOL Beccs!!!   Unless I have been mis-led by surgeon friends, the path toward becoming a surgeon is much the same: years of study beyond the regular college degree, get your medical degree and THEN specialize.

I'm not sure your bedside manner would engender confidence though.  That's why you're a surgeon, right?  The patient is OUT before you start in with the scalpel!

You are correct.

And yes, they're USUALLY out...

(October 12, 2015 at 11:29 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 11:25 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: You strawmanned my argument. Put whatever spin on it to help you sleep tonight, but that's a rather dishonest tactic.

sorry just seen a perfect opportunity to illustrate my point so i grabbed it nothing else was working wooosh going over everyones heads i was desperate .

Oh believe me . . . absolutely nothing you have typed since you first logged in has "gone over anyone's head".  That's hilarious.

No offence, Jenny, but nothing you have said here has gone over our heads.

One of the great things about medicine is the way it progresses and evolves. I have an aneurism in my head. In it is a tiny amount of platinum wire.

Not so long ago, such a treatment would require invasive surgery. The wire was inserted, surgically, through an artery in my leg.

(October 12, 2015 at 11:31 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 11:29 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: sorry just seen a perfect opportunity to illustrate my point so i grabbed it nothing else was working wooosh going over everyones heads i was desperate .

Oh believe me . . . absolutely nothing you have typed since you first logged in has "gone over anyone's head".  That's hilarious.

you yourself quoted all the different ways i tried to get my point across about that one concept you even listed all my comments and said i was beating a dead horse - well it wasnt dead it was still alive ppl were still debating me and not understanding what i was saying about wanting a doctor who had understanding about what he was diagnosing .

(October 12, 2015 at 11:29 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 11:25 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: You strawmanned my argument. Put whatever spin on it to help you sleep tonight, but that's a rather dishonest tactic.

sorry just seen a perfect opportunity to illustrate my point so i grabbed it nothing else was working wooosh going over everyones heads i was desperate .

You weren't desperate. You were dishonest.

And, no, your bullshit isn't going over anyone's head.

(October 12, 2015 at 11:42 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 11:31 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Oh believe me . . . absolutely nothing you have typed since you first logged in has "gone over anyone's head".  That's hilarious.

you yourself quoted all the different ways i tried to get my point across about that one concept you even listed all my comments and said i was beating a dead horse - well it wasnt dead it was still alive ppl were still debating me and not understanding what i was saying about wanting a doctor who had understanding about what he was diagnosing .

We understood perfectly...
































That your argument was 90% bullshit, 10% wishful thinking.