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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 11:54 am
(October 30, 2015 at 11:28 am)pool Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 11:12 am)Rhythm Wrote: "This is how particles interact" existed both before the particles existed, and before the event that determined how they would react existed? GL with that.
"This is how particles interact" existed before the big explosion. It makes sense because before the big explosion there were particles and they'd have to follow the "This is how particles interact" for the explosion to take place in the first place 
Are you labouring under the misapprehension that the Big Bang was an explosion?
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 11:58 am
(October 30, 2015 at 11:54 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 11:28 am)pool Wrote: "This is how particles interact" existed before the big explosion. It makes sense because before the big explosion there were particles and they'd have to follow the "This is how particles interact" for the explosion to take place in the first place
Are you labouring under the misapprehension that the Big Bang was an explosion?
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Quote:After its initial appearance, it apparently inflated (the "Big Bang"), expanded and cooled, going from very, very small and very, very hot, to the size and temperature of our current universe.
Explosion sounds cooler :/
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 12:08 pm
So, the big bang is nothing like the firecrackers upon which your observations are centered.....but you're gonna run with it anyway..because it sounds cooler...or are you done?
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 12:13 pm
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a computer has codes that it obeys . the computer is unthinking it cannot develope its own codes , the computers environment that is unthinking doesnt create computer codes , the thinking being creates the codes that determine how the computer behaves what it does
organisms like computers their development and behavior is determined by code of their DNA . an organism cannot decide to become another organism it is beyond its ability as science well knows as anyone knows who can simply observe the reality around us knowing thats true doesnt require an in depth masters degree in biology
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 12:18 pm
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(October 30, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So, the big bang is nothing like the firecrackers upon which your observations are centered.....but you're gonna run with it anyway..because it sounds cooler...or are you done?
You think I'm wrong because I said that "This is how particles interact, period." rule existed for particles before the BB.
Quote:Singularities are zones which defy our current understanding of physics. They are thought to exist at the core of "black holes." Black holes are areas of intense gravitational pressure. The pressure is thought to be so intense that finite matter is actually squished into infinite density......
I understand that BB happened from the rapid expansion of a singularity.
Now read the bolded part.
Now do you understand? Why I said what I said? Because you seem to be telling me that a singularity doesn't involve any sort of particles
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If your point is that you have a better understanding of BBT then you're probably right otherwise I see no point in your posts rather than test what I know about BBT
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 12:19 pm
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Computers -all- have their own language, that is determined by their composition and arrangement. It's called a machine language. Higher level programming, what you think of as code, is just a way for human beings to communicate with the computer. No matter how a computer is built..and even if one happened to form in the absence of our intervention (which is both possible and well evidenced) it would have a machine language..no need for us to supply that.
But why, would any of that matter? OFC....you think that DNA is a code, written by a programmer. It's not....if we're going to use the analogy of computers, for poetic effect, DNA is machine language. If DNA had a different structure, it would have a different machine language. It might have helped, before you made this comment, to know anything at all about computers or biology..and you're right..it doesn't take a masters in either.....
..so what's your excuse, Jen?
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Still pursuing ignorance for it's own sake, are we?
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 12:22 pm
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(October 30, 2015 at 11:31 am)Rhythm Wrote: Back to pitching straw, Jenny? Do you still not understand why this is pointless?
i think its pointless to say that unintelligent objects create DNA a very complex specific design
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 12:22 pm
Quote:Because you seem to be telling me that a singularity doesn't involve any sort of particles
As far as I can follow the math (as I'm neither a physicist nor a mathematician, I could very well be wrong), that's precisely correct. At infinite densities, particles, as such, do not exist. When Alex is here, he may be able to express this better than I can.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 12:25 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 12:22 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: i think its pointless to say that unintelligent objects create DNA a very complex specific design
If you think that facts are pointless..I don't see how you're going to climb up out of the hole you've dug for yourself.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 12:25 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 12:22 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Quote:Because you seem to be telling me that a singularity doesn't involve any sort of particles
As far as I can follow the math (as I'm neither a physicist nor a mathematician, I could very well be wrong), that's precisely correct. At infinite densities, particles, as such, do not exist. When Alex is here, he may be able to express this better than I can.
Boru
Is that really true? I didn't know that
So if there were a room that is filled with an infinite amount of particles at infinite densities the room would be empty? :/
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