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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 8:37 pm
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2015 at 8:48 pm by jenny1972.)
(October 30, 2015 at 8:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Look, I'm not going to debate with you what I needn't debate. You have the program, you can figure it out for yourself. You've very literally been handed the knowledge, and what you do with it is your own business. Either you can accept a fact and incorporate it into your beliefs or you can't - that has little to do with me.
Your god is, at the very least, not as small as you thought he was. Apparently, if he exists, he can go completely hands off. Feel free to argue against facts till you're blue in the face, make your god as small as you need him to be to feel comfortable?
i never considered God to be small or constantly directing nature
(October 30, 2015 at 8:24 pm)Evie Wrote: Jenny,
I really don't understand why you not only just don't "get" evolution but you also seem opposed to it.
I'm sure you have your reasons... I hope you come to realize that life can be just as awesome with a belief in evolution... because when it comes to logic evolution actually makes a lot of sense.
I like you Jenny and you're nice... but because I understand how natural selection works doesn't make me a "religious atheist" : there's no such thing as a religious atheist.
i understand and believe in evolution and im not opposed to evolution at all why do you think im against evolution i
what i mean by a religious atheist are those atheists who believe that they have everything all figured out just like religious people believe that through their theories that they have faith in that they have everything figured out
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 8:43 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 12:03 am)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 11:25 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: I'm curious why you're so convinced that the science is "highly unlikely." Have you perhaps studied both cosmology and biology at the college level? Determined after many years of research that those science guys have got it all wrong?
Or, are you simply talking out your ass for the sake of hearing your own voice. Because that's what it sounds like. Your views on the Big Bang and evolution are fundamentally and laughably wrong yet you come here spouting shit as if you actually know something about them.
Please, enlighten us on all the education you've received on these topics.
some science guys believe in evolution + Intelligent Design scientists have different theories they dont all agree
So, that would be no education then. Cool. I can freely ignore your comments as completely irrelevant.
Now, I'm sure you're going to object on the grounds that you're just giving your opinion. I'll just nip that right here. Until you understand enough about science to recognize the difference between a scientific theory and a casual theory (wild assed guess) you don't know enough to even have an opinion.
Go educate yourself before your complete and total ignorance embarrasses you further.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 8:44 pm
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Apparently you do. Gods so small that he has to fuck with the controls for any of this to have played out as it has. Doesn't matter to you that this is factually untrue...and you've plainly stated that nothing will disabuse you of your belief. That educating yourself about that which you are plainly and demonstrably wrong could only further convince you that you are right.
I need some confirmation, if you would please, on an item. I'll repeat.
Evolution is not random.
Evolution is not random.
Evolution is not random.
Evolution is not random.
You reading me up there, cloud cadet?
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 8:44 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 8:27 pm)Evie Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 8:24 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: i know were not talking about whether evolution occured but why evolution evolved as it did , through random chance or intelligent design 
Oh so you do believe in evolution then? You just don't think the origins of life came about without a god?
yes exactly
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 8:48 pm
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No, not exactly, lol.... Jen? You don't know what evolution is to believe in it in the first place, that you even consider it an issue of belief is hilarious. Cmon.....
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 8:51 pm
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Natural selection is the driving force in evolution... the genetic mutations is a random(ish) element but that merely allows the possibility of genetic variation it doesn't drive the variety or anything else in nature at all - natural selection is the driving force in nature and natural selection is absolutely not random
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 8:51 pm
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(October 30, 2015 at 8:43 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 12:03 am)jenny1972 Wrote: some science guys believe in evolution + Intelligent Design scientists have different theories they dont all agree
So, that would be no education then. Cool. I can freely ignore your comments as completely irrelevant.
Now, I'm sure you're going to object on the grounds that you're just giving your opinion. I'll just nip that right here. Until you understand enough about science to recognize the difference between a scientific theory and a casual theory (wild assed guess) you don't know enough to even have an opinion.
Go educate yourself before your complete and total ignorance embarrasses you further.
no i will continue to post comments but feel free to ignore them
(October 30, 2015 at 8:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No, not exactly, lol.... Jen? You don't know what evolution is to believe in it in the first place, that you even consider it an issue of belief is hilarious. Cmon.....
everyone who has gone to public school knows about evolution and ive been to public schools
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 9:05 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 1:28 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: None of the rest of that about large balls of hydrogen or things being the same age has anything to do with what I said.
Or with anything we understand about cosmology.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 9:06 pm
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(October 30, 2015 at 8:51 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: everyone who has gone to public school knows about evolution and ive been to public schools So how have you managed to get it so wrong, then? You just weren't paying attention? Everyone knows this stuff....except you?
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 9:07 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 8:51 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 8:43 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: So, that would be no education then. Cool. I can freely ignore your comments as completely irrelevant.
Now, I'm sure you're going to object on the grounds that you're just giving your opinion. I'll just nip that right here. Until you understand enough about science to recognize the difference between a scientific theory and a casual theory (wild assed guess) you don't know enough to even have an opinion.
Go educate yourself before your complete and total ignorance embarrasses you further.
no i will continue to post comments
And you will continue to embarrass yourself. Your choice to hang your ignorance out there for everyone to mock.
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