Milk and cheese are substitutes?  For what....?

(October 30, 2015 at 9:04 am)Aractus Wrote: I don't know where you're getting your information, but no one has discovered yet why high intakes of red meats seems to increase the risk for colorectal cancer. Stop regurgitating bullshit you hear from the internet.

Then go and read "The Livewire Guide to Going, Being and Staying Veggie!"

(October 30, 2015 at 9:27 am)Rhythm Wrote: We have a dairy consumer here who's worried about the welfare of animals?  

Hey I'm still working on it. Since I became vegetarian people would ridicule me "Why are you vegetarian blah, blah, blah" but over the years those people got cancers and one by one as they got cancer suddenly would switch to vegetarian diet and blenders and juices would suddenly pop up in their kitchens, because doctors tell them "Stay off meat."
There is a really good documentary on how toxic food has become for human body. "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" follows charming Australian guy who is fat and sick, he has really serous immunological disease for which he has to take large amount of pills every day. So he decides to start eating right by going across US, talking with regular people about what they eat while he is on a strict vegan (squeezed fresh juice) diet and in course of 2 months you can see him not only get fit but also completely healthy again. And not just him he also meets another fat and sick guy who gets healed the same way.
Documentary is available on youtube but some links are not abailable in all countries
Try watching it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjyLvBRwChw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o0pSnp0Xs8

Any of you familiar with wrestling might know Austin Aries. He's a vegan (at least last time I checked). Just throwing it out there

Some people seem to think vegans are automatically weaklings. I'm a weakling, though.

(November 1, 2015 at 2:51 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Hey I'm still working on it. Since I became vegetarian people would ridicule me "Why are you vegetarian blah, blah, blah" but over the years those people got cancers and one by one as they got cancer suddenly would switch to vegetarian diet and blenders and juices would suddenly pop up in their kitchens, because doctors tell them "Stay off meat."

Hehe, I was just poking you a little, I don't judge, lol - work those cattle for every ounce!  I doubt doctors told them "lay off the meat".  More likely, "lay off the red meat, and this, and that, and put more of this in, and more of that in, and get some exercise while you're at it".  Cutting meat out of your diet, in-and-of itself, is unlikely to do anything at all.  Cheetos aren't made of meat.   French fries aren't made of meat.

Quote:There is a really good documentary on how toxic food has become for human body. "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" follows charming Australian guy who is fat and sick, he has really serous immunological disease for which he has to take large amount of pills every day. So he decides to start eating right by going across US, talking with regular people about what they eat while he is on a strict vegan (squeezed fresh juice) diet and in course of 2 months you can see him not only get fit but also completely healthy again. And not just him he also meets another fat and sick guy who gets healed the same way.
Documentary is available on youtube but some links are not abailable in all countries
Try watching it

This is where it just gets weird.  We watch someone change their entire lifestyle......but for whatever reason, we fixate on a single thing and say "It healed him, and this other guy too".  Yeah, no.  Becoming a vegetarian isn't going to heal anyone of anything.  Cheetos and french fries are, just to mention them again, as vegetarian as it gets. It's not gonna make a person sick, ofc...and it could be a healthier diet than the person is currently on - but it's not as though a healthy diet can't or doesn't include meat. The veggie thing is trendy though, trendy enough to make a documentary industry out of it. You don't see quite as much on people who eat all the usual shit were familiar with, but in the proper portions. Just doesn't sell DVDs. : shrugs :

@Rob...yes, but...growth hormone.......

An Chinese acquaintance of mine informs me that a modern colloquial Chinese expression for a person who is unaggressive, undiligent, or incompetent in his profession translates to "vegan" or "vegetarian". Similarly a go getter is called a carnivore.

So don't tell a Chinese person you are a vegan or a vegetarian.

(November 1, 2015 at 3:10 am)robvalue Wrote: Any of you familiar with wrestling might know Austin Aries. He's a vegan (at least last time I checked). Just throwing it out there

Some people seem to think vegans are automatically weaklings. I'm a weakling, though.

Or Patrik Baboumian who is strongest man in the world and also vegan