(November 1, 2015 at 10:57 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

When analyzing the journey of humanity through life, we can find it's no more than a set of actions, done to produce a desired output; the existence of a human itself is a conclusion of an action : that is birth.

Humanity always serves, even the smallest of actions cannot escape the domain of the action being a type of service; the only dynamic part in the equation is the side which the service if offered for, ranging from ourselves to include others, anything a human do can be immediately identified as a service.

Being dependent creatures, humanity can never escape the fact that they are served. By studying the environment, every reason that keeps humans alive is actually a service given to them; either it's a case of atheism or theism, we can say "earth supports human life" or say "God is blessing humanity to survive".
Despite the person's belief, humanity is being served, and our actions are all services.

The revolution in this concept, is an entity that doesn't get served. If a certain entity exists, it never gets served, then we face a crack in the concept  we define humans with : (a human always serves & get served); but that entity would be an entity that (always serves and never gets served).

From that point; the concept of God originates. Either believed in, or not, we can't define humans with another concept than the above : humans are dependent on services given by other entity.

That is one gnarly word salad, bro. Your premises are not true, and your conclusions do not follow from them even if they were true.


Not every action has to be force-fitted into being defined as a "service" to something or someone, and there is no evidence that reality was created to serve humans (or created at all). Rather, evidence indicates that we evolved to take advantage of environmental conditions, which is why our environment seems to contain so many things that are useful to us.


Even if we decided to grant that humans can be defined simply as entities who are "dependent on services given by other entity," that still doesn't necessitate the existence of a divine service-provider.

Like with amny other arguments for God, why God? Why not simply the brute fact that the universe exists with all its laws and initial processes, and we arise eventually as a result.

If there is a god, and he's keeping us afloat or whatever, yay god. What does is matter?

Is he going to die, or run out of energy, without or worship or something?

(November 1, 2015 at 10:57 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

When analyzing the journey of humanity through life, we can find it's no more than a set of actions, done to produce a desired output; the existence of a human itself is a conclusion of an action : that is birth.

Humanity always serves, even the smallest of actions cannot escape the domain of the action being a type of service; the only dynamic part in the equation is the side which the service if offered for, ranging from ourselves to include others, anything a human do can be immediately identified as a service.

Being dependent creatures, humanity can never escape the fact that they are served. By studying the environment, every reason that keeps humans alive is actually a service given to them; either it's a case of atheism or theism, we can say "earth supports human life" or say "God is blessing humanity to survive".
Despite the person's belief, humanity is being served, and our actions are all services.

The revolution in this concept, is an entity that doesn't get served. If a certain entity exists, it never gets served, then we face a crack in the concept  we define humans with : (a human always serves & get served); but that entity would be an entity that (always serves and never gets served).

From that point; the concept of God originates. Either believed in, or not, we can't define humans with another concept than the above : humans are dependent on services given by other entity.

welll, I did not think i could ever read something that was incorrect in every sentence.  FSM cries for you.  I will pray that you will accept his noodles.

I feel like it's time to quote my own signature line, again:

A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

(November 1, 2015 at 10:57 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

When analyzing the journey of humanity through life, we can find it's no more than a set of actions, done to produce a desired output; the existence of a human itself is a conclusion of an action : that is birth.

Humanity always serves, even the smallest of actions cannot escape the domain of the action being a type of service; the only dynamic part in the equation is the side which the service if offered for, ranging from ourselves to include others, anything a human do can be immediately identified as a service.

Being dependent creatures, humanity can never escape the fact that they are served. By studying the environment, every reason that keeps humans alive is actually a service given to them; either it's a case of atheism or theism, we can say "earth supports human life" or say "God is blessing humanity to survive".
Despite the person's belief, humanity is being served, and our actions are all services.

The revolution in this concept, is an entity that doesn't get served. If a certain entity exists, it never gets served, then we face a crack in the concept  we define humans with : (a human always serves & get served); but that entity would be an entity that (always serves and never gets served).

From that point; the concept of God originates. Either believed in, or not, we can't define humans with another concept than the above : humans are dependent on services given by other entity.

"Hey look, if I define everything by fiat into a series of arbitrary, completely self serving categories, I can come to the conclusion I'd already believed before setting out to define it into existence!"

Another day, another theist without evidence making shit up in order to define his special pet creature into existence.