(November 9, 2015 at 4:38 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(November 6, 2015 at 10:13 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: You're human ;D that's why I built my sentence that way.

Don't get me wrong, as an another human I think you're pretty good, but as a God ?
It's the same reason I would never believe Jesus was God.

Take this small challenge : my God brings the sun from east. Bring it from the west.

Cute rabbits

If you were on Venus or Uranus the Sun would rise in the West.  So then, per your own rule, you would have to believe that Jesus was God.

Why jump to venus ? it was obvious that it's earth we're speaking about.

Mmmm, Rob, in what is so obvious is that you don't want to catch this : "all creations are made by one entity. For a creation to claim he/she is god; is one big fat lie".

Which makes your theory -in the eyes of believers- not so convincing, the point is broken before it was even made.

The idea of Islam, is to worship a single God.
How do we know the god we worship ?
simple : a believer prays for THAT WHO CREATED EVERYTHING.

And, I would despise a God, who can show himself to me. Remember Moses and when he told God to show himself to him ?

Quran,Sura 7
( 143 ) And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, "My Lord, show me [Yourself] that I may look at You." [Allah] said, "You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me." But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, "Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers."

You can't even survive the rays of a supernova..so Rob, quit heathen mentality, because it's not that cool..

I didn't understand any of that.

The question is simple: Allah shows up in front of you. How do you know that it is actually Allah, and not an arbitrarily powerful alien?

Forget about me being God, it was a way of framing the question.

I won't be able to see him.
And I was to see him, what happened to the mountain in Moses's story will happen to me.

OK. How would you know there was anything there, and how would you know it is Allah and not an imposter?

If you are god, give me all your powers.

The creations speak for their source. If he wasn't here, we wouldnt've saw a universe with so many laws and creations.

An impostor can be tested, by asking him to mimic God. Raise the sun from the west, create a similar universe...etc,  and at the end : if I can see the impostor in this life, then he is not worthy to be God.

Hmm... you can have one of my powers. I can convert gold into mud just by touching it.

Now you can too! Use it wisely.

Atlas: So you'd have no idea if Allah was right in front of you or not. You can't distinguish it from nothing. Is that right?

I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide? 

The extraordinary kind apparently.  Personally I'd be more impressed if you found a way to convince us using nothing but widely understood principles and common sense.  Still, you're the god, what are you asking us for?

Because I'm assessing each theists understanding of their own criteria and scepticism.

I can only assume the theists who haven't even posted have no criteria at all and wouldn't know a god from a goldfish

I'm only screwing around. I'm god, and I can do what I like. I should have thought of this before.