(November 10, 2015 at 7:42 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: What about Pol Pot?
What about him? Another set of consequences one man's demise wouldn't solve.
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Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler?
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 What about him? Another set of consequences one man's demise wouldn't solve.
(November 10, 2015 at 7:44 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Yes, WWI was terrible for Europe. But terrible for Europe in 1914-1918 was ultimately good for the world. Nothing like that. Colonialism prevailed unti after 1945 and well into the 50ies. Took a second world war to put an end to that.
 (November 10, 2015 at 8:04 pm)abaris Wrote:(November 10, 2015 at 7:42 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: What about Pol Pot? Well, that was my thought. Just checking. You know how some people have a specific thing for Hitler.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
 (November 10, 2015 at 6:48 pm)abaris Wrote:(November 10, 2015 at 6:40 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Persecution of Jews in Germany goes way back. Consider the Hep Hep Riots of 1815 that involved both destruction of Jewish property and the killing of Jews. Again, we are not disagreeing. We both agree that Hitler was just a spearhead f8r anti-Jewish sentiments that were already in the public sphere. And did that war involve a complete repopulation of the geographic region that then became known as Germany? I'm not talking about the geopolitical designations. I'm talking about the people. Did the Germans people just all the sudden pop up in 1871? Did they rush in from somewhere else and supplant the Prussians?
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers. Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. --Voltaire Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.  (November 10, 2015 at 6:32 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(November 10, 2015 at 6:25 pm)Losty Wrote: New thread, if given the chance would you save Franz Ferdinand and would it have changed everything So....it's better to let poor Franzy die and then stop the war? RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler?
November 10, 2015 at 8:15 pm
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(November 10, 2015 at 8:07 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: And did that war involve a complete repopulation of the geographic region that then became known as Germany? I'm not talking about the geopolitical designations. I'm talking about the people. Did the Germans people just all the sudden pop up in 1871? Did they rush in from somewhere else and supplant the Prussians? First, Germany is still as federal and diverse as they come. Secondly, compare German antisemitism to contemporary antisemitism and you come up with the same picture in every country, except the Osmanic empire. In fact, the first ones to kill jews on German soil were the French crusaders of 1096. Persecution in thge Western parts of what was Russia back in the 19th century was much worse. But that's an entirely different story.
One possible result is that by going back in time to kill baby Hitler, you actually create Hitler.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy  (November 10, 2015 at 1:44 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: So, if time travel were possible and you were given the chance to kill baby Hitler (or any other human you find comparable) would you? If time travel were possible and, therefore, you were able to kill baby Hitler, wouldn't you also have the ability to change things in such a way that Hitler still lives but doesn't kill millions?
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Little -known fact: Hitler narrowly survived an auto accident in 32 or 33, by dint of deciding to sit in the back seat rather than stand up from the front seat as was his norm.
 (November 10, 2015 at 8:05 pm)abaris Wrote:(November 10, 2015 at 7:44 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Yes, WWI was terrible for Europe. But terrible for Europe in 1914-1918 was ultimately good for the world. WWI caused the seed of anti-colonialism to germinate. Native anticolonial movements was active and organized in the 20s and 30s in ways it never was before 1914. WWII facilitated their full flowering. Since WWII was a probable outcome of WWI, one might as well say WWI both germinated the seed and facilitated its eventual flowering. |
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