(December 4, 2015 at 12:39 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(December 3, 2015 at 5:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: A good question to ask the Holy Inquisition.

Or the crusaders...

If it hadn't been for the Crusaders you would be a muslim.

(December 4, 2015 at 12:39 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(December 3, 2015 at 5:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: A good question to ask the Holy Inquisition.

Or the crusaders...

Or maybe this guy

image of Hitler coming out of church
We all know what he learned from his ventures of praying in Church to Jesus and learning about his teachings especially on how to treat Jews

(December 3, 2015 at 3:41 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(December 3, 2015 at 3:34 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Don't worry - when Hillary becomes the President of USA, she will put a stop to all this gun violence be cracking down on video games...

I played a lot of pacman in my youth. If video games had had any influence I be constantly be gobbling pills and listening to repetitive music.....

Good point. I watched a lot of Road Runner cartoons as a kid, and yet I've managed to reach the age of 45 without dropping an anvil on a coyote.

Boru

(December 4, 2015 at 2:28 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(December 4, 2015 at 12:39 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: Or the crusaders...

If it hadn't been for the Crusaders you would be a muslim.

Yeah, not so much, since the Crusades were largely failures, both political and military. A better assessment might be, 'If it weren't for Charles Martel, you'd have a better chance of being a Muslim.'

Boru

Who knows what it would have done to mainstream Islam if it had been institutionalized in Europe back in that day! Maybe it would have been flattened by the Enlightenment nonetheless.

(December 4, 2015 at 4:50 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 4, 2015 at 2:28 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If it hadn't been for the Crusaders you would be a muslim.

Yeah, not so much, since the Crusades were largely failures, both political and military.  A better assessment might be, 'If it weren't for Charles Martel, you'd have a better chance of being a Muslim.'

Boru

Kudos to Ferdinand & Isabella as well.

(December 3, 2015 at 4:52 pm)Lek Wrote: If everyone followed Christs's teachings what would cause them to kill a bunch of people?

The same exact things that caused christians to massacre millions of people over the past few millennia.

Like Mat 10:34.

Quote:34"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35"For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;…

You can read Christ's teachings however you please, because they're written in dead languages and are mainly meaningless platitudes, intended for goat-f*cking barbarians - if you don't like what they say, you just find a different translation, interpretation, or "read between the lines". Religion is nothing more than self-serving bullsh*t - people who don't want to kill, claim that bible tells them so; people who do want to kill claim the bible tells them so.

How about people, who already are following the teachings of Jebus stop fighting between themselves first, before you start making idiotic, self-righteous statements about how christians don't kill people, huh? And hey - if EVERYONE bent over and followed the teachings of Islam, what reasons would people have to kill each other? If there were no infidels and nobody would break sharia law - everyone would surely live happily ever after, right? No? Why not?...

(December 4, 2015 at 10:18 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(December 3, 2015 at 4:52 pm)Lek Wrote: If everyone followed Christs's teachings what would cause them to kill a bunch of people?

The same exact things that caused christians to massacre millions of people over the past few millennia.

Like Mat 10:34.

Quote:34"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35"For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;…

You can read Christ's teachings however you please, because they're written in dead languages and are mainly meaningless platitudes, intended for goat-f*cking barbarians - if you don't like what they say, you just find a different translation, interpretation, or "read between the lines". Religion is nothing more than self-serving bullsh*t - people who don't want to kill, claim that bible tells them so; people who do want to kill claim the bible tells them so.

How about people, who already are following the teachings of Jebus stop fighting between themselves first, before you start making idiotic, self-righteous statements about how christians don't kill people, huh? And hey - if EVERYONE bent over and followed the teachings of Islam, what reasons would people have to kill each other? If there were no infidels and nobody would break sharia law - everyone would surely live happily ever after, right? No? Why not?...

It doesn't matter which system is used as long as everyone follows it without exception.  The problems happen when people get competing ideas and desires.