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What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 8:22 pm
(December 11, 2015 at 8:15 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: This is getting quite amusing.

Tell me again, why do you think we won't get rid of religion?

So your explanation for these rates 150 years after Darwin? How about the fact that education does not have much to do with it? I think it was Nietzsche who thought that religion would be gone in a generation or two. 
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 8:23 pm
(December 11, 2015 at 8:21 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote:
(December 11, 2015 at 8:21 pm)Evie Wrote: False dichotomy. You stupid bugger.

Fuck off, ok? Either engage me or don't, but spare me your remarks.

Lighten up. You called folks who disagreed with you either stupid or stubborn.
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 8:24 pm (This post was last modified: December 11, 2015 at 8:28 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 11, 2015 at 8:20 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: You and I are atheists. Therefore anyone can become atheist. What's so hard to understand about that? Why do you have to drag the conversation into wholly different domains it has nothing to do with?

It's not hard to understand, it just doesn't follow.  This is my brain, braining "better".   See...it doesn't always pan out the way you expect. I'm contending the same with regards to religiosity and god belief. If our brains were "better" at braining..they would be even better at religiosity and god belief...they would not, as you hope...make us less religious, or make for fewer believers. Wink
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#54
RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 8:25 pm
Nietzsche was a philosopher. Not a prophet, not a scientist, and not alive in the 21st century.

Yes, Darwin happened. Yes, scientists overwhelmingly are not believers. That doesn't mean anything. People weren't as exposed to these ideas until the internet came along. And it's still a work in progress, but it will happen eventually.
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 8:26 pm
(December 11, 2015 at 8:23 pm)Evie Wrote:
(December 11, 2015 at 8:21 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: Fuck off, ok? Either engage me or don't, but spare me your remarks.

Lighten up. You called folks who disagreed with you either stupid or stubborn.

I didn't mean anything by it. Maybe you should stop being so sensible about words.
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#56
RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 8:26 pm
I don't know what you mean. How we think and what we think is part and parcel of the question of god belief.
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 8:28 pm
(December 11, 2015 at 8:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(December 11, 2015 at 8:20 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: You and I are atheists. Therefore anyone can become atheist. What's so hard to understand about that? Why do you have to drag the conversation into wholly different domains it has nothing to do with?

It's not hard to understand, it just doesn't follow.  This is my brain, braining "better".   See...it doesn't always pan out the way you expect.  I'm contending the same with regards to religiosity and god belief.  If our brains were "better" at braining..they would be even better at religiosity and god belief...they would not, as you hope...make us less religious, or make for fewer believers.  Wink

I'm trying to get you to admit you think you're special somehow. That I'm special. That us atheists in general are some sort of special breed of people that can see through the God delusion(pun intended) and religious folks are not.

That's what follows, given these two facts. We're both atheists. You believe people will always be religious.
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 8:30 pm
(December 11, 2015 at 8:25 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: Nietzsche was a philosopher. Not a prophet, not a scientist, and not alive in the 21st century.

Yes, Darwin happened. Yes, scientists overwhelmingly are not believers. That doesn't mean anything. People weren't as exposed to these ideas until the internet came along. And it's still a work in progress, but it will happen eventually.

Evolution has been taught for generations now. Yet the rates aren't slowing. I will say, you do have faith...despite evidence to the contrary. Hmm, that sounds familiar...
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 8:31 pm
(December 11, 2015 at 8:28 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote:
(December 11, 2015 at 8:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It's not hard to understand, it just doesn't follow.  This is my brain, braining "better".   See...it doesn't always pan out the way you expect.  I'm contending the same with regards to religiosity and god belief.  If our brains were "better" at braining..they would be even better at religiosity and god belief...they would not, as you hope...make us less religious, or make for fewer believers.  Wink

I'm trying to get you to admit you think you're special somehow. That I'm special. That us atheists in general are some sort of special breed of people that can see through the God delusion(pun intended) and religious folks are not.

That's what follows, given these two facts. We're both atheists. You believe people will always be religious.

What the hell?
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 8:31 pm
(December 11, 2015 at 8:26 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I don't know what you mean.  How we think and what we think is part and parcel of the question of god belief.

Let's stay on point and keep it simple.We're talking about belief here. I'm saying we can free people from their religious dogmatism and help them embrace a freer mindset. You say we can't. Tell me why not.
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