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"The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 12:26 pm
Great.  A world full of old fucks.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 12:38 pm (This post was last modified: December 14, 2015 at 1:19 pm by Athene.)
(December 14, 2015 at 9:12 am)excitedpenguin Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 8:27 am)Thena323 Wrote: I'm not interested in holding on to life at any cost.

What do you mean "any cost"? We're talking about living in what would basically be a healthy, fully-functioning body... forever. What's not to want? If you ever get bored, by all means, you can still kill yourself.

When I first posted, I was thinking along the lines of incremental delays to the aging process through ongoing scientific/medical advances. I don't believe that it's capable of producing the sort ageless immortality that's being described in your above post, so I guess we're just not on the same page. 

I'm imagining a desperate stretching of inevitable decay, not somehow becoming a Highlander.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 12:40 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 12:22 pm)KUSA Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: How is this even possible without over populating the world?

Sure. We can all live and limit new people to replacing the ones that died from accidents and such.

How in the world would that work? Lol. Are we going to forcefully sterilize all men and women, except the ones we deem fit to reproduce or something?
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 12:42 pm
There'd be no other way..and I sure as hell wouldn't want to be immortal in -that- world.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 12:58 pm
Sounds like we should just let nature do its job.

Immortality would open up a whooooole can of worms.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 1:10 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 3:52 am)Heat Wrote: There are many claims like this in this day and age. People have been speculating this more and more as a result of the exponential increase in technological advancement. The number may very, but it is usually closer to 500.

What are your thoughts on this?

I think it's wishful thinking. The oldest verified person died more than two decades ago at 122. Since then we haven't seen the exponential spike that these well wishers seem to think will happen. In fact we've always had people who have lived into their 90s and 100s since we've kept records. So the oldest someone can live has barely gone up since we've kept track of such things. I see no reason that we'll suddenly have this giant spike in how long someone can live.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 1:16 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 11:01 am)KUSA Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 9:11 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: You can train your memory. And you'll still remember everything, just not in as much detail.
That might work for a while but you would run out memory like an iPhone.
I'm sure we'll come up with a solution to that. Let us have those sorts of problems first, then we can worry about them.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 1:17 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 11:56 am)Rhythm Wrote: We couldn't support a race of immortals on this rock.  Look at how shitty it already is for most of us - now spread those resources out further.  Not that I'd have to worry about it, immortality will be too expensive for my blood if they ever figure it out.

Not necessarily. It might become available at a low cost fairly fast once it's achieved. You can only imagine how many resources would be put into it after we reverse the aging process.
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"The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 1:18 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 12:26 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Great.  A world full of old fucks.

You could bitch about guns for the next thousand years or until Jesus comes back.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 1:19 pm (This post was last modified: December 14, 2015 at 1:22 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
We'd have to solve an even wider range of potentially more difficult problems.  I wouldn't be worried in the short term /w regards to resources...but there's no such thing as a short term to an immortal race. I suppose I just can;t see it leading anywhere but other choices that I couldn't possibly make or sign off on. Things I wouldn't trade for immortality.

Besides, I'm already going to live forever, or at least as close to forever as it matters to me. It'll be my genetic boot on the throats of the oppressed masses soon enough.
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