(December 19, 2015 at 7:56 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: Guys, just look at it this way. Evidence of all the atheist MEN and how they look in real life pictures is basically = to how they believe/disbelieve in God. It's as if their faces are distorted and they appear to be lying to themselves. This = the existence of likely every atheist on the planet. And if you want proof that it hurts to be an atheist, line every atheist up and snap a snapshot of them. They'd be obvious liars/decievers. One user here has a signature in his posts of a man talking who looks like an atheist. You know who I'm talking about. An evident liar you'd see for yourself soon enough. Why lie so blatently? Why so publicly? Why so 'HONESTLY', is the point.

You can't come across a theist an expect him to believe your "absense of God" stance, when the theist has been everywhere you have and the atheist hasn't ever been, EVEN ONCE, in the same stead.

This is proof that atheists are dumb and 100% wrong, but it is sure enough proof to me that the people we should be looking at here are the ATHEISTS, not the christians, as we are looking at the christians right now.

I bet any atheist here doesn't have the balls to relate his so called "evidence" to that of a christians.

Why, he should just take a video of his pathetic unbelieving, God hating, .... to be clearly honest with you there are tens of dozens+ arguements to give to the atheists, but it would result with biting the tounge and raving ... Best to just save these things for those who are interested in your experience in dealing with atheists.

I honestly cannot answer in any way to this nonsense except to that that it is nonsense.

(December 19, 2015 at 9:14 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: You "know" your stupidity so blindly as to ignore each and every one of my insulting commentary, but you have no commentary to comment about it because your dealing with an actual FAITH ABIDING christian. And whenever you deal with one of those people you know it's already time for this "obviously needed" cleansing to occur. Because they side aganist agnostics and atheists.

Wow. No one throws a bitch-fit like you, JBrentonK. 

You're so angry that your posts barely make any fucking sense; All of this petulance and venom, because no one believes that you're a breathtakingly fancy and noble Son of God. 

Either get medicated, or grow the hell up.

(December 19, 2015 at 8:58 pm)JBrentonK Wrote:

(December 19, 2015 at 8:48 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: I'm not the one who makes claims which he cannot "prove" to anyone who doesn't want to be fooled.

You're still a projectionist, and a particularly insulting one at that. Nobody believes a word you say, not even you, and you know that. The only reason why you are here is to insult people who you hate, and you really, truly hate us because we have the mental freedom which you lack.

You are the one, sadly who makes claims which he cannot prove to anyone who doesn't want to be fooled.

Or whatever....

I am a true christian, apparently unlike delicate. If he were a true Christian, he would know the difference between faith and evidence, instead of looking it up just about everywhere on the internet. I've lived a life wherein most of my time is devoted to the "truth of God", I actually lived as an atheist for about 25 years ( I am 30 years old ). But I now know what atheists are like. Not that this is at all any of your buisness. You think I'm a "projectionist". Whatever that is.... No, I am a faith abiding god FEARING christian, a term that people like you are, apparently, deathly afraid of. I, unlike you, have the EXPERIENCE to back each, and every one, of my claims.

You, mister hankey, and your response which, I thought, I was trying to respond to , ha ha!-- are a TOTAL waste, you are a total idiot, and yes, I am a particularly insulting christian. That's about the only way you can, apparently now mister hankey but it sounds like your mad again, debate on this forum. Is debate too big of a word for you? Or is it just your fear of closet homosexuality? I know what it is that you FEAR mister hankey! Faith!

haha!se

Thank you for making it so plain to see how uneducated you are, Mr. No True Scotsman!

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(December 19, 2015 at 8:58 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: No, I am a faith abiding god FEARING christian, a term that people like you are, apparently, deathly afraid of. I, unlike you, have the EXPERIENCE to back each, and every one, of my claims.

On experience, you have more than met your match, Virginia! If I choose not to follow you beyond this round, it's only because you aren't worthy.

Your fundamental failure in understanding is that experience in argument has no value here, and tactical argument is all you have. Or I should say others on your side tend to have it, those who can do better than project and deflect the way children do on their school playgrounds.

Present evidence of an empirical nature for your case, or go home. Seeing how you have proved yourself to be not even aware of the No True Scotsman fallacy, chances are you wouldn't know empirical evidence if it bit you in the ass!

I'm thinking JBK is a poe....

Is episode 2 actually coming?
As a long time fan of the series I'm feeling cheated. Does anyone want to start writing fan fiction?

(December 19, 2015 at 10:31 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Is episode 2 actually coming?
As a long time fan of the series I'm feeling cheated. Does anyone want to start writing fan fiction?

I thought this WAS the fan-fiction, they're making stuff up so quickly.

Then again, I should have suspected it wasn't when I noticed the lack of slash-fic... it was gonna be my one chance to bang Vorlon. 

(December 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: Atheists are like a closet homo sexual disease that, we faith abiding christians, must cleanse. Yes, each and every one of you Atheists out there.

Poe-leeeeze, you kill me!

Just a quick reminder:

Default (weak) atheism cannot be wrong, as it makes no claims of either belief or of knowledge. It is simply the state of mind of not yet being convinced that God either does or does not exist. It is being undecided. So to state "Atheists are wrong" is to strawman every atheist as a strong/gnostic atheist, who is making additional claims.

If you need to misrepresent your audience, then your argument is bogus.

(December 20, 2015 at 6:44 am)robvalue Wrote: Just a quick reminder:

Default (weak) atheism cannot be wrong, as it makes no claims of either belief or of knowledge. It is simply the state of mind of not yet being convinced that God either does or does not exist. It is being undecided. So to state "Atheists are wrong" is to strawman every atheist as a strong/gnostic atheist, who is making additional claims.

If you need to misrepresent your audience, then your argument is bogus.

I'm a 6 on the Dawkins scale of 7. There is most probably no god, and it's most unlikely that any theist will ever come up with an intellectually honest case for his god which is supported by any empirical evidence, but because all god claims are unfalsifiable, anyone's claim of a personal relationship with a god which isn't delusional has the same probability as any tale of riding pink unicorns, or scoring with a hundred DD mermaids.

Also, I don't see my anti-theism being in conflict with non-absolute atheism, so long as that applies only to evangelism and child indoctrination. There could be a god which is as powerful as they claim, but if so it would not need any such shenanigans in order to make itself known.

After several years of hanging out on atheist blogs and this forum, I still haven't run into anyone who would say there is absolutely no god, but then most posting atheists are too educated to say that. In real life I met some who would hold that position out of spiteful ignorance, and they would not be reasoning their position here because they wouldn't know how. I don't waste my time discussing ideas with them for the same reasons I won't waste my time on Delicate.

(December 19, 2015 at 7:56 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: Guys, just look at it this way. Evidence of all the atheist MEN and how they look in real life pictures is basically = to how they believe/disbelieve in God. It's as if their faces are distorted and they appear to be lying to themselves. This = the existence of likely every atheist on the planet. And if you want proof that it hurts to be an atheist, line every atheist up and snap a snapshot of them. They'd be obvious liars/decievers. One user here has a signature in his posts of a man talking who looks like an atheist. You know who I'm talking about. An evident liar you'd see for yourself soon enough. Why lie so blatently? Why so publicly? Why so 'HONESTLY', is the point.    The only liar here is you, fuckwad troll.

You can't come across a theist an expect him to believe your "absense of God" stance, when the theist has been everywhere you have and the atheist hasn't ever been, EVEN ONCE, in the same stead.   No, because a theist believes.  A theist NEEDS to believe.  We do not.

This is proof that atheists are dumb and 100% wrong, but it is sure enough proof to me that the people we should be looking at here are the ATHEISTS, not the christians, as we are looking at the christians right now.   Are you capable of making a coherent point, and raising your insults above the level of a 6-year-old?  Apparently not.

I bet any atheist here doesn't have the balls to relate his so called "evidence" to that of a christians.   LOL!!  Absolutely.  That's what we keep telling you.  We have found INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE, you pathetic druggie deluded moron.  We do not find sufficient compelling evidence to believe in god.

Why, he should just take a video of his pathetic unbelieving, God hating, .... to be clearly honest with you there are tens of dozens+ arguements to give to the atheists, but it would result with biting the tounge and raving ... Best to just save these things for those who are interested in your experience in dealing with atheists.    <  Does this make any sense?  What a mess.  Grade - F - try again.  I know this is a waste of time, but here is the reaction to you and the thousands of other theist preachers who come by:   You say there are dozens of arguements [sic].  So list them.  See if you can drag yourself out of 1st-grade, name-calling, infantile whining trollville and just list the arguments.  You haven't given us a good argument in a single post you have ever typed into this forum, so prove that you can.  If you can't, stop wasting your time and ours.

Is this mentally-challenged drugged up pool of pond scum STILL here?  After all of the sick, mind-numbing idiot crap he's already posted, he's still trying?  Wow, that takes a whole new level of sick.   Congrats, J Getbent Love-it-up-the-ass Killjoy, you win the prize for the stupidest troll on the internet!   Now you can quit now, you won.  I'm sure you can find a cheap certificate somewhere to hang on you shit-stained wall.    

"Evidence of all the atheist MEN and how they look in real life pictures is basically = to how they believe/disbelieve in God."  Oh, I'm glad it's just the men.  We women don't need to worry about being non-photogenic.   You know, though, if you could take pictures of atheists IRL and prove this drivel, you would get a lot of attention.  And money.  Go for it.  

If you actually think you have an important point to make online, you really should learn to spell.  And write a decently-crafted sentence.  And learn how to formulate an argument that a reasonably bright 4th grader couldn't take apart.