The insults mask a weak argument. A person confident in their position doesn't feel the need to resort to such obfuscation, unprovoked. Protip: it doesn't hide anything - it draws attention to it.

(December 26, 2015 at 4:10 pm)Stimbo Wrote: The insults mask a weak argument. A person confident in their position doesn't feel the need to resort to such obfuscation, unprovoked. Protip: it doesn't hide anything - it draws attention to it.

What a surprise Stim.
After long long time you finally say something that make sense.
Congratulation and enjoy my special kudos.
But now please come down to planet earth and look around the many posts and
see how many times i call somebody a cretin or idiot and how many times other
people call me with names, swear to me for no reason and even called my mother a whore.
I would say 1 compare to thousand in their favor so no your judgement IF is directed to me is
absolute wrong.  

(December 26, 2015 at 11:58 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:

(December 26, 2015 at 8:00 am)Little Rik Wrote: Stop it there beanie.
You already perform your clown show in the local market.
Now you are home so act like a normal human being if you can.
1) The universe and we human are made not only of matter but also of water, energy, air and space.
2) The universe and our body can not possibly be conscious really.
It is we that we are conscious and therefore it make sense that also the mind behind the universe is conscious.
Atheism never came up with solid evidence that the universe can run itself and therefore it make sense to opt for the theory that make more sense which is that a body need a mind to run it.  

1) Water and air are both types of matter, shit-stick.
2) More gibberish, like always.



Your shit is pure matter and this stuff is controlled by the lower gland in your body.
Water on the other hand is controlled by a different gland above the lower gland.
Heat and energy in your body is also controlled by a different gland above the other two glands.
Air, space, mind and subconscious are also controlled by different glands above those just mention
so NO there is a big difference among all elements therefore your putting everything together make no sense.

Quote:For one thing, you're presuming there's a "mind behind the Universe," even though there's no evidence of that.

If all those who discovered something important would have waited for evidence we would still be living in caves like our ancestors.
Those smart people rely on what make sense and reject what doesn't that is why we got where we are these days.
If we wait for zombies dressed in pink we still would be living in caves.  

Quote:For another, Atheism isn't responsible for finding evidence of anything; science, on the other hand, has plenty of evidence to demonstrate that natural processes are automatic and do not require the intervention of a deity, mind, or anything else.

Garbage.
1) Atheists keep on repeating the mantra that they claim nothing but in reality they claim dogma after dogma as i already shown.
2) No evidence has ever been shown that the universe can run itself.  

(December 27, 2015 at 2:04 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(December 26, 2015 at 11:58 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: 1) Water and air are both types of matter, shit-stick.
2) More gibberish, like always.



Your shit is pure matter and this stuff is controlled by the lower gland in your body.
Water on the other hand is controlled by a different gland above the lower gland.
Heat and energy in your body is also controlled by a different gland above the other two glands.
Air, space, mind and subconscious are also controlled by different glands above those just mention
so NO there is a big difference among all elements therefore your putting everything together make no sense.




If all those who discovered something important would have waited for evidence we would still be living in caves like our ancestors.
Those smart people rely on what make sense and reject what doesn't that is why we got where we are these days.
If we wait for zombies dressed in pink we still would be living in caves.  




Garbage.
1) Atheists keep on repeating the mantra that they claim nothing but in reality they claim dogma after dogma as i already shown.
2) No evidence has ever been shown that the universe can run itself.  

Based on your arguments I fail to understand why people are even spending the time to respond.

Quote:But now please come down to planet earth and look around the many posts and
see how many times i call somebody a cretin or idiot and how many times other
people call me with names, swear to me for no reason and even called my mother a whore.

No, rik, I said the stronger person doesn't need to hurl insults unless provoked. You can't go a single post without provoking an insulting response. Just look at how you opened this very reply to me: "What a surprise Stim.
After long long time you finally say something that make sense.
Congratulation and enjoy my special kudos.
But now please come down to planet earth". You had to get the condescension in place as an attempt to distract me from seeing the absurdity that followed. But as I told you, it had the opposite effect.

(December 26, 2015 at 3:52 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:

(December 25, 2015 at 5:13 am)Little Rik Wrote: Well, well, i was thinking what present should i give to my little mates from the atheist forum
for Christmas so i came up with something a bit unusual that i am sure will help you to understand
better how the whole system works.  
Let us talk about the universe.
Atheists in general think that the universe can do without a mind or God but wait a minute guys.
The universe has got what we also humans got.
It has matter, water, heat-light-energy, air and space.
We, beside our body also got a mind and a consciousness so why this universal body should also not have
a mind and consciousness that control it?
Have you ever seen a body alive without a head?  
Even a zombie got a head (whether it works is a different story) but a head-mind-consciousness is there anyway wherever there is a body.
So, just guess what this controlling mind suppose to be?
You never thought about it, did you guys?  

You really are getting desperate, aren't you?
Your latest is one of the most obviously flawed analogies I think I've ever read. Just because 2 things being compared have some similarities, does not mean you can come to any sort of conclusion about what other things they may have in common.
A pond full of dirty water has matter, water, heat-light-energy, air and space, just like the universe has. A pond full of dirty water does not have a head (or consciousness). Therefore, the universe doesn't either. See, I just proved that there is no mind controlling the universe.
Here is a term you may want to look into, and use from time to time, "critical thinking".

I would have thought that you are a little bit smarter that that Moon.
If i would have to follow your demented example then i also could say that even the excrement got all the elements such as matter, water, energy and so on and therefore a turd should also have a head-mind.
What you miss to take in consideration is that consciousness is not the same in every item in this universe.
The lower you go as in the matter and the less consciousness you get and the more you go up as in human beings the more you get.
Consciousness is everywhere.
That doesn't mean that a head-mind is present in the same level everywhere.
Your pond full of dirty water in which all the component such as matter, water and so on are present
are at the very bottom of consciousness scale.
According to yoga one day these elements will turn into plants, animals, humans and back to where they came from so their actual dormant and latent consciousness will expand in order to take the shape of the original form (God).
Without a consciousness within nothing get expanded.
A climber is never happy to stay where she is.
She keep on moving on and on in search for better conditions.
Everything in this universe is on the move.
Nobody is really 100% happy until they reach the goal of life.
The universe is also not happy.
The elements within need consciousness expansion.
Why would they need expansion if a goal is not there?  

(December 27, 2015 at 3:34 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(December 26, 2015 at 3:52 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: You really are getting desperate, aren't you?
Your latest is one of the most obviously flawed analogies I think I've ever read. Just because 2 things being compared have some similarities, does not mean you can come to any sort of conclusion about what other things they may have in common.
A pond full of dirty water has matter, water, heat-light-energy, air and space, just like the universe has. A pond full of dirty water does not have a head (or consciousness). Therefore, the universe doesn't either. See, I just proved that there is no mind controlling the universe.
Here is a term you may want to look into, and use from time to time, "critical thinking".

I would have thought that you are a little bit smarter that that Moon.
If i would have to follow your demented example then i also could say that even the excrement got all the elements such as matter, water, energy and so on and therefore a turd should also have a head-mind.
What you miss to take in consideration is that consciousness is not the same in every item in this universe.
The lower you go as in the matter and the less consciousness you get and the more you go up as in human beings the more you get.
Consciousness is everywhere.
That doesn't mean that a head-mind is present in the same level everywhere.
Your pond full of dirty water in which all the component such as matter, water and so on are present
are at the very bottom of consciousness scale.
According to yoga one day these elements will turn into plants, animals, humans and back to where they came from so their actual dormant and latent consciousness will expand in order to take the shape of the original form (God).
Without a consciousness within nothing get expanded.
A climber is never happy to stay where she is.
She keep on moving on and on in search for better conditions.
Everything in this universe is on the move.
Nobody is really 100% happy until they reach the goal of life.
The universe is also not happy.
The elements within need consciousness expansion.
Why would they need expansion if a goal is not there?  

If what you are saying is that everthing that is on the move is not happy until it reaches its goal, then my foot will be relentless until it reaches your ass mate.

Atheism is shit. It's like living in a fantasy world which is caught between another fantasy world and a big gap between two other things. It's time to wake up, wake up again, then realize it wasn't even your dream. This has to stop, before someone really gets hurt.

I got my Ultra Street Fighter 4 though! Oh, it feels good to be throwing fireballs again.

Oh never played that one. Super Street Fighter II Turbo is the classic I play

(December 27, 2015 at 2:04 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(December 26, 2015 at 11:58 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: 1) Water and air are both types of matter, shit-stick.
2) More gibberish, like always.



Your shit is pure matter and this stuff is controlled by the lower gland in your body.
Water on the other hand is controlled by a different gland above the lower gland.
Heat and energy in your body is also controlled by a different gland above the other two glands.
Air, space, mind and subconscious are also controlled by different glands above those just mention
so NO there is a big difference among all elements therefore your putting everything together make no sense.




If all those who discovered something important would have waited for evidence we would still be living in caves like our ancestors.
Those smart people rely on what make sense and reject what doesn't that is why we got where we are these days.
If we wait for zombies dressed in pink we still would be living in caves.  




Garbage.
1) Atheists keep on repeating the mantra that they claim nothing but in reality they claim dogma after dogma as i already shown.
2) No evidence has ever been shown that the universe can run itself.  

You are obviously a cretin who knows nothing of science, electing instead to bury your head in a bunch of Eastern Woo.


Most of the glands you describe don't even exist, you obviously still don't know what the word "atheism" means, nor what it entails, and yes, the arrival of evidence-based conclusions and reasoning is the very foundation of the modern scientific age, and it's directly responsible for humans having longer lives, better health, and the secrets to the origins of the Universe and the nature of Life.


Everything religion has ever promised but failed to deliver, science has served up mostly just in the last few hundred years. Religion kept us crawling along with mostly garbage technology and health care until science came along and blew the lid off all that shit. Do you realize that in 1915 (just 100 years ago) the average life expectancy of a male human was 47 years? Now it's nearly double that. You have science to thank; not gods, spirits, or religions. Science, bitch.