(January 3, 2016 at 2:01 am)miaharun Wrote:

(January 2, 2016 at 5:58 pm)Losty Wrote: You don't know why I need an explanation? I want you to define bad? Tell me how you know when something is bad. Tell me what authority you have to define something as bad. Tell me what makes bad things bad.
Is offering someone an apple if they'll help you push your car a little ways bad?
Is having consensual sex with an adult bad?

It is a feeling when something is bad. For the two questions you have asked they are not bad things. However having sex with a married person is considered wrong. I consider killing mosquitoes a wrong act. That's just me.

If it's a feeling that something is bad, then it stands to reason that every person has a right to decide for themselves what is bad and what is not bad. Correct?

(January 3, 2016 at 6:28 am)Losty Wrote:

(January 3, 2016 at 2:01 am)miaharun Wrote: It is a feeling when something is bad. For the two questions you have asked they are not bad things. However having sex with a married person is considered wrong. I consider killing mosquitoes a wrong act. That's just me.

If it's a feeling that something is bad, then it stands to reason that every person has a right to decide for themselves what is bad and what is not bad. Correct?

That doesn't rationally follow. It's more accurate to say every person has the right to discover for themselves what is bad and what is not bad but that would not rationally follow from the "if" statement either.

(January 3, 2016 at 6:28 am)Losty Wrote:

(January 3, 2016 at 2:01 am)miaharun Wrote: It is a feeling when something is bad. For the two questions you have asked they are not bad things. However having sex with a married person is considered wrong. I consider killing mosquitoes a wrong act. That's just me.

If it's a feeling that something is bad, then it stands to reason that every person has a right to decide for themselves what is bad and what is not bad. Correct?

Of course. Everyone has the right to feel and decide whats right and whats wrong.

(January 3, 2016 at 10:22 am)miaharun Wrote:

(January 3, 2016 at 6:28 am)Losty Wrote: If it's a feeling that something is bad, then it stands to reason that every person has a right to decide for themselves what is bad and what is not bad. Correct?

Of course. Everyone has the right to feel and decide whats right and whats wrong.

Certain laws would disagree with you on that.

EXAMPLE:
You might feel it's wrong to murder someone.
A wife who's been beaten and abused by her alcoholic husband, might not think twice about popping a cap in his head while he's asleep and think there's nothing wrong with it.
The laws of their country might dictate that she be charged with first degree murder since she thought about it prior to acting on it, therefore making it premeditated. Since the husband was sleeping at the time, not abusing her, making him defenseless, she can't argue a position of self defense against the abuse.
A jury might, under those circumstances, find her guilty.
Was it wrong for her to be abused? Most would say so. I say most because some might argue that it depends on whether or not she was as equally abusive to her spouse as he was to her. Some would also say she could have had other options available. Some might say she chose to ignore those options.
This is a good example of why there are necessary laws in countries. Because not everyone thinks that vigilante justice is right, no matter what precipitated the end result and two wrongs don't make a right.

That said, my example was just that. An example. I do not advocate domestic violence.

Your correct. I didn't take law into consideration. I said everyone has the right. Free to choose. However not free of the consequences.

Indeed. Most don't bother to consider the consequences until they've already acted.

(January 3, 2016 at 9:05 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(January 3, 2016 at 6:28 am)Losty Wrote: If it's a feeling that something is bad, then it stands to reason that every person has a right to decide for themselves what is bad and what is not bad. Correct?

That doesn't rationally follow. It's more accurate to say every person has the right to discover for themselves what is bad and what is not bad but that would not rationally follow from the "if" statement either.

I love you, you know I do, but I don't think you really do well with rationality. If you define bad as something that makes you feel like it's bad, then bad would be different for each person.

(January 3, 2016 at 10:22 am)miaharun Wrote:

(January 3, 2016 at 6:28 am)Losty Wrote: If it's a feeling that something is bad, then it stands to reason that every person has a right to decide for themselves what is bad and what is not bad. Correct?

Of course. Everyone has the right to feel and decide whats right and whats wrong.

I actually agree to an extent with this.

(January 3, 2016 at 1:00 pm)Losty Wrote:

(January 3, 2016 at 9:05 am)MysticKnight Wrote: That doesn't rationally follow. It's more accurate to say every person has the right to discover for themselves what is bad and what is not bad but that would not rationally follow from the "if" statement either.

I love you, you know I do, but I don't think you really do well with rationality. If you define bad as something that makes you feel like it's bad, then bad would be different for each person.

It still wouldn't follow rationally that they can decide what is bad for them, it still can be that they have the right to discover what is bad for them to do and they may fail to recognize that or they may discover that while they don't have the right to simply chose whatever they want to be bad and feel bad about.

(January 3, 2016 at 1:00 pm)Losty Wrote: I love you

Soulmates that will never be together.