(January 9, 2016 at 6:47 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(January 9, 2016 at 6:27 am)yukapuka Wrote: That's where your wrong, HE is a role model and his morals and values and personality is what is still reverting people today to Islam [...]

Sure - Muhammad (may his ar*e be penetrated by a thousand donkey dongs) is a role model. Pieces of sh*t, pedophiles and warlords need role models too. I'm sure ISIS c*nts model themselves after the f-ing prophet.

There are people in Russia today, that still revere Stalin, despite all the evil he brought on his own people. Primitive, uncivilized and backward people (which is what constitutes the majority of Muslims worldwide) fail to learn from history - which they largely have no access to anyway, because of censorship, propaganda and being uneducated, illiterate peasants - and will follow the most horrible monsters, especially those, that died long enough ago, so that apologists can make up fantastic sh*t about them.

F*ck Muhammad. Hail Satan!

(January 10, 2016 at 12:20 am)yukapuka Wrote:

(January 10, 2016 at 12:05 am)JuliaL Wrote: So let's have some straight, specific, useful revelation.
Forget about the amazing things that used to happen.
Out of your thousands of hadiths, can you and your "scholars" please pull out the winning powerball numbers for tomorrow?
I hear we're headed for a billion dollar prize.

Thanks for the offer of beard hair, but I really don't need any.

that's so pathetic that i should not even respond to your request

but it does unveil something about you....enough said

on another note, seekers of truth are not seekers of wealth

Quote:so that's your explanation? besides he isnt he only one, Islam is the fastest growing religion for a reason

(January 9, 2016 at 12:42 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(January 8, 2016 at 9:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sorry if this has been answered already. I have a question for my Muslim brothers. But what is the difference between the Quran and the Hadith? Which is more important? Is a Muslim supposed to follow both?

*Edited. Was watching TV when I wrote it the first time lol.

Hadiths are sayings attributed to the Prophet or the 12 Imams (if you are Shia) that have chains (so and so narrated from so and so). People study the people narrating it, and determine if everyone in the chain is trustworthy enough to deem the hadith authentic.

Some people believe hadiths can cancel out Quran (for example stoning hadiths cancel out Quran command to lash), the majority of Muslims are of this opinion. 

Shia and Sunni alike believe in this. Furthermore, majority of Muslims (shia and sunni) don't believe it's really up to them to study hadiths, but to follow a learned scholar regarding hadiths and follow what they explain is the rulings.

So this whole check hadiths with Quran is just a theory, it has no real practice. This specially given people don't reflect over verses of Quran much. 

In reality, hadiths more important then Quran to Muslims although they will all claim Quran is more important. The reason is hadiths are followed more then Quran through scholars.

That said, I think ilmel rijaal (the science of trustworthiness or lack of that of humans and their biographies) was more of bias tool then a real knowledge or science and should be used only to increase probability of truth of a report.

That said I do believe some hadiths have been narrated numerously with many authenticated chains as well as non-authenticated chains, that there is no doubt about them.  Those stand almost as important as Quran to me personally. 

Quran however to me is the most important. I don't believe hadiths can abrogate Quran or cancel out Quranic commands either. 

That said in theory  - Shia and Sunni - Muslims both believe hadiths should be referred to Quran. But in reality, it's a different practice then what is in theory.

(January 10, 2016 at 1:38 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Thanks for the answer!