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For those who want proof of the exodus
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
January 15, 2016 at 12:01 pm
(January 12, 2016 at 3:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: We ran out of things to discuss regarding the exodus, what with it never happening and all.

A positive claim made. Burden of proof shifted.

You can prove that the Exodus never occurred?

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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
January 15, 2016 at 12:01 pm
(January 15, 2016 at 10:27 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 1:29 pm)dyresand Wrote: Ahem citation please.. because you know slaves were beaten killed and even  raped etc. 
Slaves are not treated like human beings they are treated less than human.

Yes sport, I would say the vast majority were treated badly, But not everyone who had slaves treated them badly. Washington had a policy where not only where the slave tipped/received bonuses he also promoted slaves to spend free time to better themselves and their living arrangements.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/...lives.html

Understand I never said slave were not treated badly ever. I said NOT ALL Slaves Must be treated badly. Nike shoes is a good modern example of this. Ive left posts that explain this in greater detail already.

Understand I never said that slaves were never beaten or treated badly. I said that they did not have to be.

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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
January 15, 2016 at 12:02 pm
(January 15, 2016 at 12:01 pm)athrock Wrote:
(January 12, 2016 at 3:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: We ran out of things to discuss regarding the exodus, what with it never happening and all.

A positive claim made. Burden of proof shifted.

You can prove that the Exodus never occurred?

How?

There is no proof of exodus FOR FUCKS SAKE
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
January 15, 2016 at 12:03 pm
(January 12, 2016 at 4:44 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(January 12, 2016 at 12:48 pm)athrock Wrote: Let me attempt to explain it this way: I personally don't buy into the idea the some all-powerful being created everything that we can see, etc. in six 24-hour periods, and then took a day off to rest. I mean, seriously?

But OTOH, the more common understanding of Genesis is that the author is trying to convey a message about the creation of all things as best he can. It seems to me that he can be dead on about the who (God) and the what (creation) without needing to understand the how (evolution v. creationism). Doesn't this seem reasonable?

Similarly, IF (and I'm saying this because I'm trying to PRESENT the argument rather than ASSUME it) the author was trying to convey the basics of a story about God's judgment of the wicked, etc., would it be possible for him again to have the Who and What correct without necessarily getting the details spot on?

Now, I get that SOME fundamentalist types accept the literal interpretation of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, but not all Christians - heck, not even the majority of Christians - do. So, why are you so intent upon holding such a simple-minded interpretation of the flood when Christians themselves do not?

It's a strawman argument, Stimbo, and not a terribly good one at that.

Hey, it's not my story. I didn't write any of it. I'd've written a better one if I had.

And it's not the story that I am calling into question but your insistence upon interpreting it in a literal manner. See the difference?
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
January 15, 2016 at 12:05 pm (This post was last modified: January 15, 2016 at 12:07 pm by athrock.)
(January 15, 2016 at 12:02 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 12:01 pm)athrock Wrote: A positive claim made. Burden of proof shifted.

You can prove that the Exodus never occurred?

How?

There is no proof of exodus FOR FUCKS SAKE


Then you are ignorant of the material which is the subject of this thread. 

However, I do understand why asserting this over and over makes life simpler for you...kinda like simply saying that Jesus never even existed is the easiest way to avoid actual thought.
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
January 15, 2016 at 12:08 pm
Ath, no one's "ignorant of the material" in this thread, by now.  The presenter the documentary, like the OP author and yourself, is a charlatan.
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
January 15, 2016 at 12:24 pm
(January 15, 2016 at 10:27 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 1:29 pm)dyresand Wrote: Ahem citation please.. because you know slaves were beaten killed and even  raped etc. 
Slaves are not treated like human beings they are treated less than human.

Yes sport, I would say the vast majority were treated badly, But not everyone who had slaves treated them badly. Washington had a policy where not only where the slave tipped/received bonuses he also promoted slaves to spend free time to better themselves and their living arrangements.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/...lives.html

Understand I never said slave were not treated badly ever. I said NOT ALL Slaves Must be treated badly. Nike shoes is a good modern example of this. Ive left posts that explain this in greater detail already.

Understand I never said that slaves were never beaten or treated badly. I said that they did not have to be.
Washington was a greedy scumbag slave owner.  He moved his slaves around so that he wouldn't have to free them if they stayed too long in a State that was eliminating slavery.  
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news...83/?no-ist

He joined the Revolution to lead the fight to keep slavery in the Colonies.  If there's a hell he should be in it for that reason.
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
January 15, 2016 at 12:28 pm
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Then you are ignorant of the material which is the subject of this thread.

There is no fool like a willing fool, assrock.  Tell me....do you believe Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs really happened, too?
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
January 15, 2016 at 12:43 pm
(January 15, 2016 at 12:01 pm)athrock Wrote:
(January 12, 2016 at 3:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: We ran out of things to discuss regarding the exodus, what with it never happening and all.

A positive claim made. Burden of proof shifted.

You can prove that the Exodus never occurred?

How?
Do you believe that a million Ethiopians invaded Judea?
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
January 15, 2016 at 12:58 pm
(January 15, 2016 at 12:05 pm)athrock Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 12:02 pm)dyresand Wrote: There is no proof of exodus FOR FUCKS SAKE


Then you are ignorant of the material which is the subject of this thread. 

However, I do understand why asserting this over and over makes life simpler for you...kinda like simply saying that Jesus never even existed is the easiest way to avoid actual thought.

You have to the most ignorant and uneducated person along with OP and presenter. Seriously go to to google 
no theistic sources but chances are they are  lying like the presenter. The Egyptians like the Romans kept records 
they would have kept records of jews and the other religious cults at the time near and around the city. The Romans 
would have had a document on jesus so what the hell does this all say you may wonder. Christianity it's all bullshit 
there is no evidence to prove any of it happening but everyone would gladly follow a lie that has no evidence rather
the reality of it being it's just a goddamn ancient fairy tale.
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