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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
January 30, 2016 at 12:49 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 11:54 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Btw, here's a little bit of that hostility towards people of faith I was referring to:
(January 30, 2016 at 11:49 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Besides - even deluded morons deserve some fun once in a while. And christians are masters at dealing with guilt and such. They just go into a magic closet with a man in a dress, murmur some nursery rhymes/magic spells and they can go straight to heaven. So no harm done. 
Which part of that paragraph is not a fact?
And isn't this the thread about NDE people? Because I'd f*ck one of those too...
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
January 30, 2016 at 12:51 pm
Yes, but someone on here said they had never seen anyone here with hostility towards people of faith.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
January 30, 2016 at 12:51 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 12:44 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Even today, scientific discoveries take a while for to be made public, when they are declassified. It's usually 20 year old technology before the public knows about it. What?!!
Things get published in journals and scientists are more than eager to publish their newest shiny toy, so that no one else can claim to have done that same thing.
Granted, most journals do require a subscription to read the whole paper, but the abstracts are always available online as soon as they are published, free of charge.
Like any newspaper, you need to buy in order to read it.
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
January 30, 2016 at 12:52 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 12:49 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (January 30, 2016 at 11:54 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Btw, here's a little bit of that hostility towards people of faith I was referring to:
Which part of that paragraph is not a fact?
And isn't this the thread about NDE people? Because I'd f*ck one of those too...
Would that make you a necrophiliac? Or a semi-necrophiliac?
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
January 30, 2016 at 12:55 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 12:51 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (January 30, 2016 at 12:44 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Even today, scientific discoveries take a while for to be made public, when they are declassified. It's usually 20 year old technology before the public knows about it. What?!!
Things get published in journals and scientists are more than eager to publish their newest shiny toy, so that no one else can claim to have done that same thing.
Granted, most journals do require a subscription to read the whole paper, but the abstracts are always available online as soon as they are published, free of charge.
Like any newspaper, you need to buy in order to read it.
No no, you know, in the minds of conspiracy theorists, all the *real* research is done in magical super-secret military labs which are all 50 years ahead technology-wise compared to everyone alse.
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
January 30, 2016 at 12:59 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 11:54 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Btw, here's a little bit of that hostility towards people of faith I was referring to:
(January 30, 2016 at 11:49 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Besides - even deluded morons deserve some fun once in a while. And christians are masters at dealing with guilt and such. They just go into a magic closet with a man in a dress, murmur some nursery rhymes/magic spells and they can go straight to heaven. So no harm done.
Oh I'd never deny it. I see it all the time. But in Homeless Nutter's defense he at least put a tongue sticking out smilie on it. So that ought to take some of the sting out of it. 
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
January 30, 2016 at 12:59 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 12:55 pm)Alex K Wrote: (January 30, 2016 at 12:51 pm)pocaracas Wrote: What?!!
Things get published in journals and scientists are more than eager to publish their newest shiny toy, so that no one else can claim to have done that same thing.
Granted, most journals do require a subscription to read the whole paper, but the abstracts are always available online as soon as they are published, free of charge.
Like any newspaper, you need to buy in order to read it.
No no, you know, in the minds of conspiracy theorists, all the *real* research is done in magical super-secret military labs which are all 50 years ahead technology-wise compared to everyone alse.
Are you talking about the ones that can cause earthquakes in Japan but can't send men to the moon?
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
January 30, 2016 at 1:01 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 12:55 pm)Alex K Wrote: (January 30, 2016 at 12:51 pm)pocaracas Wrote: What?!!
Things get published in journals and scientists are more than eager to publish their newest shiny toy, so that no one else can claim to have done that same thing.
Granted, most journals do require a subscription to read the whole paper, but the abstracts are always available online as soon as they are published, free of charge.
Like any newspaper, you need to buy in order to read it.
No no, you know, in the minds of conspiracy theorists, all the *real* research is done in magical super-secret military labs which are all 50 years ahead technology-wise compared to everyone alse.
Oh... so those are the scientists that are sucking up all the research budget, while us mere civilians have to contend with some crumbs... with yearly applications to to fellowships and projects and to work with 10 year old computers...
So... where do I sign up for those super secret military science-labs?
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
January 30, 2016 at 1:04 pm
Well, there is this thing but it's not very well developed yet, just int he beginning stages of being studied:
http://www.sptimmortalityproject.com/
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
January 30, 2016 at 1:09 pm
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2016 at 1:16 pm by scoobysnack.)
(January 30, 2016 at 12:51 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (January 30, 2016 at 12:44 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Even today, scientific discoveries take a while for to be made public, when they are declassified. It's usually 20 year old technology before the public knows about it. What?!!
Things get published in journals and scientists are more than eager to publish their newest shiny toy, so that no one else can claim to have done that same thing.
Granted, most journals do require a subscription to read the whole paper, but the abstracts are always available online as soon as they are published, free of charge.
Like any newspaper, you need to buy in order to read it.
There are many things that exist today, which will not be revealed for a decade or so. I can't say much without getting trouble, but I do know some people that work in classified projects for some government agencies, and they all say what the public knows is about 20 years behind what they have today. These all involve technology in the military which remain classified, and usually for a good reason, because you don't want the enemy to know what you have so you can have the advantage. This comes into play with asymetrical warfare, and full spectrum dominance. It would be illegal to talk about a lot of it, but I did see the drones that are used today, 20 years ago by someone I know that worked to develop them. All I can say there is a lot that's going on now that the public doesn't know about.
If you are curious to learn more, I'll point you in the direction of the disclosure project which has hundreds of government workers talking about the projects they worked on that are still not public:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE-x4WTsbMw
*Had to change the link to the video since it wasn't working to this version, but still the same press conference at the National Press Club back in 2001
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