(February 2, 2016 at 3:33 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: [edit] I have and it is surprisingly god and well written. [edit]
What did you all think of it? [edit]

Thoughts?

Bold Mine.

My thought? Nice Freudian slip! There may not be much hope left.

(February 2, 2016 at 5:14 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(February 2, 2016 at 4:45 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: It was extremley successsful IMO. Not only did the film bomb (losing more money than it made) but I believe it caused Newline Cinema to fold.

Perhaps God didn't like it .

Fortunately though, the BBC is adapting it as a miniseries. I think a film like that is more conducive to miniseries anyway.

The christers didn't like it because it was a very successful proof against C.S. Lewis' claim that you can't create a believable fantasy world without a benevolent god-like figure. Gawd had nothing to do with it.

New Line didn't fold. They were bought up by Warner Bros.

True, I suppose they didn't "fold" but they no longer exist as an independent studio, all becuase of the Golden Compass.

Honestly, I think the Christians had less to do with movies lack of success than the movie itself. Many Christians hated Harry Potter, but it did quite well in spite of them.

I think part of the problem is HDM is just too "good" of literature. It is hard, philisophical, very deep and somewhat dark and complicated. More of a serious "tough" read, than an escapist fantasy imo.

Would any child "daydream" about living in Lyra's England with an animal companion? It's kind of neat I guess, but much more stark and less joyful than say Hogwarts.

I tried reading the book when I was 9 or ten, and only got through first two chapters or so. It was quite tough. Idk... it is more a book for older teens and adults than all ages

No, I haven't read it. Based on TC's glowing recommendation, I don't think I ever shall.

Boru

(February 2, 2016 at 5:06 pm)TrueChristian Wrote:

(February 2, 2016 at 4:47 pm)Evie Wrote: My brother is epic and you suck. Kudos that one, troll.

Epic huh? please... whats he like .

Quote:  I am an agnostic..

 and I liked His Dark Materials. Why can't you give me some credit

An agnostic true christian?  Is that even possible?

(February 2, 2016 at 5:23 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: True, I suppose they didn't "fold" but they no longer exist as an independent studio, all becuase of the Golden Compass.

Or, because of a string of box office failures. Companies rarely, if ever, go under because of a single failure.

(February 2, 2016 at 5:23 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Honestly, I think the Christians had less to do with movies lack of success than the movie itself. Many Christians hated Harry Potter, but it did quite well in spite of them.

A lot of christers do hate the Harry Potter books and films. But, there was no active campaign to thwart HP at the box office like there was against "The Golden Compass." In large part because "that Philip Pullman guy is a stinking atheist and I don't wany my kid getting indoctrinated by anyone but me! HP was also far more popular and widely read than "His Dark Materials" meaning far more people were set on watching before the fims even reached the box office.

(February 2, 2016 at 5:23 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: I think part of the problem is HDM is just too "good" of literature. It is hard, philisophical, very deep and somewhat dark and complicated. More of a serious "tough" read, than an escapist fantasy imo.

While it's darker than HP and the like, it's not all that dark or that complicated. It's certainly not escapist fantasy, but it's not the deep story you seem to believe. Honestly, it's Pullman's response to C.S. Lewis claiming that you can't create a believable fantasy setting without a benevolent gawd figure.

(February 2, 2016 at 5:23 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Would any child "daydream" about living in Lyra's England with an animal companion? It's kind of neat I guess, but much more stark and less joyful than say Hogwarts.

Lots of children daydream about having animal companions and living in a fantasy world.

(February 2, 2016 at 5:23 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: I tried reading the book when I was 9 or ten, and only got through first two chapters or so. It was quite tough. Idk... it is more a book for older teens and adults than all ages

Have you actually read the books, or is all this going of your impressions as a 9- or 10-rear old? It's published by Scholastic and sold at book fairs in grade schools. Of course, it appeals to all ages for different reasons and the publisher's target audience is the young adult crowd, at it's heart it's a coming of age story that is quite accessible to grade school aged kids as well as teens and adults.

@Boru,
Don't let TC put you off of a great series of books. It's a very well written series that tells a great story.

(February 2, 2016 at 5:10 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: And you were picking on me over too many unbelievable things happening in "Fear the Walking Dead."

(February 2, 2016 at 3:33 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Have any of you atheists read this book series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials ?

I have and it is surprisingly god and well written. It is a pity the film franchise didn't really take off back in 2007.



What did you all think of it? I liked it, but I thought the series really slowed down/ got wierd sometime in the second book.

Thoughts?

Yes..
 
Checkmate.


Me: 76,542
TC: 0

(February 2, 2016 at 5:50 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(February 2, 2016 at 5:06 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Epic huh? please... whats he like .

 and I liked His Dark Materials. Why can't you give me some credit

An agnostic true christian?  Is that even possible?

It is when your the worlds most transparent troll.

(February 2, 2016 at 10:49 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(February 2, 2016 at 3:33 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Have any of you atheists read this book series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials ?

I have and it is surprisingly god and well written. It is a pity the film franchise didn't really take off back in 2007.



What did you all think of it? I liked it, but I thought the series really slowed down/ got wierd sometime in the second book.

Thoughts?

Yes..
 
Checkmate.


Me: 76,542
TC: 0

Looks like an original DooM map.

I've read the first book, and found it a bit thick to be aimed at kids or young adults, TBH.