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RE: Antitheism
February 3, 2016 at 8:32 am
(This post was last modified: February 3, 2016 at 8:34 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 3, 2016 at 8:17 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Why did you feel the need to make that statement, then? To explain to you just one of the ways that others, who don't agree with us, would point not at the buts in the seats and their beliefs (or even lack thereof), but at the institution itself...for example, when pervert priests are shuffled around.
Quote:Theism is belief in God. The content of that belief within certain religions is what defines God. Deism is belief in God devoid of any content. It is grounded in theism, similar to the way atheism is. Without any content belief in God is simply belief. Pure belief(without the object of belief) doesn't make any sense. It's both inconceivable and an illusion.
.....and at what point were we going to elaborate on your position..in response to the post you quoted..regarding the inseparability of god and religion? Why on earth would I quibble with you over whether or not peoples magical beliefs make any sense....really.....we aren't even having that discussion. What happened to all the meaning you were talking about last post?
Quote:Let me know if further elaboration is needed.
again... some elaboration will be required...at some point. Take your time princess.
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RE: Antitheism
February 3, 2016 at 8:47 am
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Once again, failed post. Starting over...
Wtf...
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RE: Antitheism
February 3, 2016 at 8:50 am
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Quote:Rhythm
(February 3, 2016 at 8:17 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Why did you feel the need to make that statement, then?
To explain to you just one of the ways that others, who don't agree with us, would point not at the buts in the seats and their beliefs (or even lack thereof), but at the institution itself...for example, when pervert priests are shuffled around. Not sure why you thought I didn't get this.
Quote:Quote:Theism is belief in God. The content of that belief within certain religions is what defines God. Deism is belief in God devoid of any content. It is grounded in theism, similar to the way atheism is. Without any content belief in God is simply belief. Pure belief(without the object of belief) doesn't make any sense. It's both inconceivable and an illusion.
.....and at what point were we going to elaborate on your position..in response to the post you quoted..regarding the inseparability of god and religion? Why on earth would I quibble with you over whether or not peoples magical beliefs make any sense....really.....we aren't even having that discussion. What happened to all the meaning you were talking about last post?
Oh, for fuck's sake. I think we'll both agree this discussion is beyond pointless. We seem to agree on everything involved, as far as I can tell.
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RE: Antitheism
February 3, 2016 at 8:53 am
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Quote:Quote:Let me know if further elaboration is needed.
again...some elaboration will be required...at some point. Take your time princess.
I had to rewrite one post two times in a row and another one one time because they didn't go through.
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RE: Antitheism
February 3, 2016 at 9:14 am
(February 3, 2016 at 8:50 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Oh, for fuck's sake. I think we'll both agree this discussion is beyond pointless. We seem to agree on everything involved, as far as I can tell.
We both agree on alot of things here, both antitheists right? Nevertheless, we don't agree on the inseparability of god and religion. I'm -certain- you can have either without the other.
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RE: Antitheism
February 3, 2016 at 9:16 am
(February 3, 2016 at 9:14 am)Rhythm Wrote: (February 3, 2016 at 8:50 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Oh, for fuck's sake. I think we'll both agree this discussion is beyond pointless. We seem to agree on everything involved, as far as I can tell.
We both agree on alot of things here, both antitheists right? Nevertheless, we don't agree on the inseparability of god and religion. I'm -certain- you can have either without the other.
How exactly do you have god without religion, if theism is a form of religion, and theism means belief in God?
Religion without God? - That, you certainly can have.
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RE: Antitheism
February 3, 2016 at 9:17 am
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Course you can. God is so poorly defined that it can just be a deistic creator, or a computer programmer or something, without any further action required. I feel there's a reasonable chance of this being some sort of simulation if I had to guess. But if so, I'm not going to worship the programmer or go "spreading the good news". I'm not going to do anything differently, even if I found this to be demonstrably true.
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RE: Antitheism
February 3, 2016 at 9:21 am
(February 3, 2016 at 8:47 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Once again, failed post. Starting over...
Wtf...
A text editor of your choosing is your best friend for these occurences. Write in that, then paste it into a reply box.
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RE: Antitheism
February 3, 2016 at 9:22 am
Don't tell me what I can't do!
Oh wait. That's something else.
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RE: Antitheism
February 3, 2016 at 9:23 am
(February 3, 2016 at 9:17 am)robvalue Wrote: Course you can. God is so poorly defined that it can just be a deistic creator, or a computer programmer or something, without any further action required. I feel there's a reasonable percentage chance of this being some sort of simulation, but if so, I'm not going to worship it or go "spreading the good news". I'm not going to do anything differently, even if I found this to be demonstrably true.
God is a religious concept.
A deistic creator is a meaningless concept.
A computer programmer of a running simulation is not a God. It is simply a computer programmer of a running simulation.
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