Before I go to bed thought I should start sharing more, rather than replying. Trust me I really do understand how crazy this sounds...

Again to explain our perception of reality, we only rely on our five senses, which are all based on vibration to interact with the world around us. Sound, sight, touch, hearing, and smell. All vibration that interacts with us and we with them. However that's not all that exists. Although we evolved into humans through the direction of the creator for the purpose of souls to inhabit the form that best meets the needs of advancement, we are not complete. There are many levels of existence. We refer to them as the natural, or conscious, subconscious, ego, and id among others, like virtual reality and augmented reality, which are both awesome if you have been keeping up with tech developments lately by the way.

Humans were created through the evolutionary process to create the perfect candidate for souls which exist in the spiritual realm to experience and learn. We have all existed long before we existed on earth. We all chose to come here. The ultimate purpose even though many of our physical selves and even souls don't realize is to learn how to love unconditionally. I say that because there are many souls that just came here for another chance, but don't know how to advance, others came here to experience, and others came here for a chance to teach. All are welcome on this plane of existence.

While here we have opportunities to experience, and learn that we can't while in the spiritual realm from where we came from. We will eventually go back after our human bodies expire. Consciousness will continue, and you will all be surprised to find yourselves outside your body, and reenter the spiritual realm. You will eventually at some point review your life with others who will judge you from their perspective, instead of your own. You will be naked, and so will your mind in that everything you kept secret will suddenly be open to view, since you no longer have your body to hide anything.

For now all I want to reinforce is the importance of love. It's the one thing that effects you, which is your soul in human body. With love you will end up learning so much more than hatred. You create new opportunities for yourself to help you grow in love and happiness, and you will create happiness and love in others which will expand like the butterfly effect. I can't stress the importance of unconditional love enough. It has the power to cure everything, whether you believe anything I've said so far. Positive thinking will bring positive experiences to you, and others.

I realize my audience, and also understand that I've talked about this before so I don't feel bad when people don't believe me. My only purpose at this point is to pass on information and help people. Disagree all you want, I expect that, but will not change on disbelief itself.

https://youtu.be/wXYvwEeWrm8

(February 5, 2016 at 12:18 am)scoobysnack Wrote: For now all I want to reinforce is the importance of love. It's the one thing that effects you, which is your soul in human body. With love you will end up learning so much more than hatred. You create new opportunities for yourself to help you grow in love and happiness, and you will create happiness and love in others which will expand like the butterfly effect. I can't stress the importance of unconditional love enough. It has the power to cure everything, whether you believe anything I've said so far. Positive thinking will bring positive experiences to you, and others.

scoobysnack Wrote:

Quote:Sure but there are thousands of examples, and are they are all liars, and delusional? Are you delusional? Are we all delusional to a point? Rational means accepting common beliefs and understandings, and even they are manipulated for an agenda, which must be accepted.

This is what 'rational' means:
ra·tion·al
ˈraSH(ə)n(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: rational
1.
based on or in accordance with reason or logic.
The scientific method is a great tool that has directly or indirectly brought nearly everything modernity has to offer. One of the things it is a great tool for is keeping us from deluding ourselves because of our biases and limited perceptions. Humans are prone to delusion, but we have a method for separating that from what's real. Another tool is rational skepticism (also called scientific skepticism or skeptical inquiry), which tells us that we should proportion our acceptance of a claim to the degree it is supported by evidence and reason, not anecdotes.

scoobysnack Wrote:Before I go to bed thought I should start sharing more, rather than replying. Trust me I really do understand how crazy this sounds...

Again to explain our perception of reality, we only rely on our five senses, which are all based on vibration to interact with the world around us. Sound, sight, touch, hearing, and smell. All vibration that interacts with us and we with them. However that's not all that exists. Although we evolved into humans through the direction of the creator for the purpose of souls to inhabit the form that best meets the needs of advancement, we are not complete. There are many levels of existence. We refer to them as the natural, or conscious, subconscious, ego, and id among others, like virtual reality and augmented reality, which are both awesome if you have been keeping up with tech developments lately by the way.

Humans were created through the evolutionary process to create the perfect candidate for souls which exist in the spiritual realm to experience and learn. We have all existed long before we existed on earth. We all chose to come here. The ultimate purpose even though many of our physical selves and even souls don't realize is to learn how to love unconditionally. I say that because there are many souls that just came here for another chance, but don't know how to advance, others came here to experience, and others came here for a chance to teach. All are welcome on this plane of existence.

While here we have opportunities to experience, and learn that we can't while in the spiritual realm from where we came from. We will eventually go back after our human bodies expire. Consciousness will continue, and you will all be surprised to find yourselves outside your body, and reenter the spiritual realm. You will eventually at some point review your life with others who will judge you from their perspective, instead of your own. You will be naked, and so will your mind in that everything you kept secret will suddenly be open to view, since you no longer have your body to hide anything.

For now all I want to reinforce is the importance of love. It's the one thing that effects you, which is your soul in human body. With love you will end up learning so much more than hatred. You create new opportunities for yourself to help you grow in love and happiness, and you will create happiness and love in others which will expand like the butterfly effect. I can't stress the importance of unconditional love enough. It has the power to cure everything, whether you believe anything I've said so far. Positive thinking will bring positive experiences to you, and others.

I realize my audience, and also understand that I've talked about this before so I don't feel bad when people don't believe me. My only purpose at this point is to pass on information and help people. Disagree all you want, I expect that, but will not change on disbelief itself.

How do you know?

(January 29, 2016 at 12:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(January 29, 2016 at 12:31 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: I'm giddy all of a sudden. I think CL is slowly, but surely becoming an atheist .

Lol, don't get your hopes up. 

I've always been skeptical about NDE's or other people's unverified personal experiences. Nonetheless, I think this story in particular raises enough wonder to deserve an honest, objective look at the possibilities.

There are a lot of Christians who are rational in most of their lives, they don't let their faith make them dicks. My mum was one as was my Gran, so is Catholic Lady. If all Christians were like CL I would not have a problem with them, (I'd still think they were wrong though).

(February 5, 2016 at 2:31 am)Thena323 Wrote:

(February 5, 2016 at 12:18 am)scoobysnack Wrote: For now all I want to reinforce is the importance of love. It's the one thing that effects you, which is your soul in human body. With love you will end up learning so much more than hatred. You create new opportunities for yourself to help you grow in love and happiness, and you will create happiness and love in others which will expand like the butterfly effect. I can't stress the importance of unconditional love enough. It has the power to cure everything, whether you believe anything I've said so far. Positive thinking will bring positive experiences to you, and others.

I have a problem with the term "unconditional". It lets the receiver of love get away with all sorts, like drowning all mankind for instance.

(February 5, 2016 at 1:42 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(February 5, 2016 at 2:31 am)Thena323 Wrote:

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I have a problem with the term "unconditional". It lets the receiver of love get away with all sorts, like drowning all mankind for instance.

@ me, or @ scooby? Text is his, meme (sarcastic) is mine.

(February 5, 2016 at 1:52 pm)Thena323 Wrote:

(February 5, 2016 at 1:42 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I have a problem with the term "unconditional". It lets the receiver of love get away with all sorts, like drowning all mankind for instance.

@ me, or @ scooby? Text is his, meme (sarcastic) is mine.

His, I was being lazy and hadn't read the whole thread.

(January 28, 2016 at 8:32 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Hey everyone. I'm new the forum and wanted to talk about near death experiences. Personally for me information from NDEs changed my life for the better. I think unlike religion, they offer better evidence of the spiritual realms and existence of God. Hoping we can have a civil discussion about it. I'm open to your views and hope we can reciprocate the respect for each other.

I would say the most amazing experiences that I have read was from Howard Storm. He was an atheist confident that nothing happens after life and his life was completely changed after his death experience. I met Howard and listened to his story, and want to share with you all here.

Please read through the short testimonial and let me know what you think so we can talk about it. There is a lot more infomation I can post, but this would be the place to start.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/no...storm.html

Why would the bullshit story of either someone who was hallucinating or lying be of interest to me in making a decision? And given that so many of these "ex-atheists" are nothing of the sort, I'd put my money on this one being a pathalogical liar.