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(February 22, 2016 at 12:49 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Enough Drich! I'm so tired of your "tragic mulatto" bullshit! I am mostly black girl from a long line of race mixing. Guess what life is hard. There are white people who don't like me because I'm an uppity negro. There blacks who don't like me for the same reason. There are Latino people who say I'm not Latina because I know two words of Spanish. On top of it there people who think I shouldn't exist because of my disability, my sexuality, because I'm fat, because my damned second toe is longer than the first.
There's always going to be some asshole who wants to voice an opinion on what I do with my vagina. They can go to hell. And so can you.
You are Making The EXACT Point I am!
You are not excepted by one race or another because you not black enough or white enough or whatever enough...
These other douche bags (your peers) are saying your situation does not exist! That the world now is completely accepting of all races and mixes. I know this to be true and it is very apparent that you do as well!
However, Your response clearly states that you were not given the tools to deal with and assimilate the situation you are now facing. Because in your own words, in your heart you can not allow a 'purest' to have their say, and at the same time retain your self worth. you've poured out your feelings and want to silence me for bring to the table things you do not want out there.
The conclusion of my point is What if...
Your parents gave you ALL the tools to deal with those who want to maintain their racial purity and seek to preserve their traditions, AND at the same time gave you the ideology that allows to to assimilate into one race or the other or even both??? That way when someone like me challenges your status you can give a true statement reflecting
This my 'mixed up' sister is what I am saying the parents of mixed race children should be made responsible for. Something far too many interracial couples are usually far too selfish to consider. I know this because everyone I speak to who does not look like one race or the other. their are even some people like you who do look like one race or the other still find themselves in limbo, when dealing with members of their various races outside their own family, because of the sharp divide I have been talking about found in the world between races.. well everywhere except the blue states apparently, where the people who are arguing against me seem to live..
No I'm not making the same point. I would never leave the house if all my actions were dictated by bigoted assholes. I said that there people who judge everything I do, but why should it have any affect on who I am? I'll carve out my own freaky little niche and be happy with who I am! I'm not saying people don't suck. But falling to pieces over it won't do shit to stop. You straighten your spine, fluff up your curls, and sashay onward.
(February 23, 2016 at 12:04 pm)Divinity Wrote: Thing is dipshit, people don't get to pick their parents. Not even their adoptive parents. I'm sure you're against single parents too. Well fuck you and fuck your stupid god, and fuck your stupid Jesus too.
I see you've elected to ignore all my hard speaking point and go for the things you think I can't argue.
(That is why I left you option three) I saw you were looking for a panic stop button for this conversation. You wanted/needed a "moral high road" something I would say that would allow to cuss God drop your mic and walk out. that is why you went 'fishing' with "black parents and gay parents" when Nothing being discussed mirrors either situation.
So I left you with "what if the children don't want gay parents?" Then the best thing/line you can come up with is: "we don't get to pick our parents so "f-God and Jesus."
How desperate are you?
:Roflol:
That was great. Weak minded weak willed person wants to argue that interracial couples should not help prepare their children for the unique set of challenges they will face in life because they do not belong to any given race, by fishing for a racist or anti gay comments.
You are a terrible person. You are looking to discredit me (by trying to paint me as a racist or homophobic)and what I am trying to bring to the table by identifying a great need that all mixed raced people seem to share, A problem that i have personally experienced and found in others like me. A problem your supposed Grandkids will also have to deal with. All because you don't like me putting the onus of this responsibility on the parents? If not the Parent Then who?
People like you make me sick. You think what you believe now about how the world works is the only way, or is automatically the best way. this is the very type of closed minded cultural thinking that brings so much strife in the life of a mixed race child.
Just try to imagine a willfully ignorant person just as oblivious and proudful as you are, about what they think is the culturally 'right' way of doing things, but then try to imagine the way they are doing it is exactly the opposite of what you are doing.
Can you imagine the conflict that would stir up in a child? Now Imagine one parent teaching the child to view and work in the world your way and the other view and work the world in a completely opposite way. with the same self righteous ferver as you have displayed here. the same say anything and do anything to make you point, and then you see the selfishness I am talking about.
It's time to grow up g-ma and open your eyes to some of the world that your grand kids will have to deal with. Not the world you paint but the world waiting for them. Don't wait till it's too late, don't wait till they start having problems. Give them the tool to deal with issues before they become problems.
(February 23, 2016 at 12:04 pm)Divinity Wrote: Thing is dipshit, people don't get to pick their parents. Not even their adoptive parents. I'm sure you're against single parents too. Well fuck you and fuck your stupid god, and fuck your stupid Jesus too.
I see you've elected to ignore all my hard speaking point and go for the things you think I can't argue.
(That is why I left you option three) I saw you were looking for a panic stop button for this conversation. You wanted/needed a "moral high road" something I would say that would allow to cuss God drop your mic and walk out. that is why you went 'fishing' with "black parents and gay parents" when Nothing being discussed mirrors either situation.
So I left you with "what if the children don't want gay parents?" Then the best thing/line you can come up with is: "we don't get to pick our parents so "f-God and Jesus."
How desperate are you?
:Roflol:
That was great. Weak minded weak willed person wants to argue that interracial couples should not help prepare their children for the unique set of challenges they will face in life because they do not belong to any given race, by fishing for a racist or anti gay comments.
You are a terrible person. You are looking to discredit me (by trying to paint me as a racist or homophobic)and what I am trying to bring to the table by identifying a great need that all mixed raced people seem to share, A problem that i have personally experienced and found in others like me. A problem your supposed Grandkids will also have to deal with. All because you don't like me putting the onus of this responsibility on the parents? If not the Parent Then who?
People like you make me sick. You think what you believe now about how the world works is the only way, or is automatically the best way. this is the very type of closed minded cultural thinking that brings so much strife in the life of a mixed race child.
Just try to imagine a willfully ignorant person just as oblivious and proudful as you are, about what they think is the culturally 'right' way of doing things, but then try to imagine the way they are doing it is exactly the opposite of what you are doing.
Can you imagine the conflict that would stir up in a child? Now Imagine one parent teaching the child to view and work in the world your way and the other view and work the world in a completely opposite way. with the same self righteous ferver as you have displayed here. the same say anything and do anything to make you point, and then you see the selfishness I am talking about.
It's time to grow up g-ma and open your eyes to some of the world that your grand kids will have to deal with. Not the world you paint but the world waiting for them. Don't wait till it's too late, don't wait till they start having problems. Give them the tool to deal with issues before they become problems.
Fuck me, the only reason why any child might "need" any "preparation" is because cunts like you exist.
I have a mixed race niece, thankfully, in this country, it's about as big a problem as what colour her toe nails are.
(February 23, 2016 at 12:27 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: No I'm not making the same point. I would never leave the house if all my actions were dictated by bigoted assholes.
look, I'm not asking that you take my side. I am saying that people of mixed races face unique problems people of one race do not. You said you were not 'black enough for the black people nor white enough for the white people, and because you did not speak spanish you were not spanish enough for them.'
Like it or not (phrasing aside) this is the exact problem I was trying to point out. a problem two other people were trying to say was unique to my personal mixed race situation and did not happen out in the 'real world.'
So despite what you think of me, you are a third party person of mixed race who has also confirmed the problem I have identified.
Quote: I said that there people who judge everything I do, but why should it have any affect on who I am? I'll carve out my own freaky little niche and be happy with who I am! I'm not saying people don't suck. But falling to pieces over it won't do shit to stop. You straighten your spine, fluff up your curls, and sashay onward.
This is the other thing I was pointing out. Now because you do not belong to one race or another you had to (sounds like on your own) figure out your place in this world. and in doing so you label those who would point to your mixed race back ground as a bad thing "bigots."
What if their was a better way? What if their was a way to retain 100% of your self worth and yet were able to have the confidence and self assurance needed to let the 'bigots' have their say, without having to belittle them or their thoughts? What if you could even be welcomed by the 'bigots' and they not see you for what they see now? What if this was given to you by your parents as a small child, and you had this all your life? What if you did not have to figure things out as you went?
That's what I am talking about, the fact that interracial parents don't generally do this, is the biggest part of the problem.
(February 23, 2016 at 12:49 pm)SofaKingHigh Wrote:
(February 23, 2016 at 12:40 pm)Drich Wrote: I see you've elected to ignore all my hard speaking point and go for the things you think I can't argue.
(That is why I left you option three) I saw you were looking for a panic stop button for this conversation. You wanted/needed a "moral high road" something I would say that would allow to cuss God drop your mic and walk out. that is why you went 'fishing' with "black parents and gay parents" when Nothing being discussed mirrors either situation.
So I left you with "what if the children don't want gay parents?" Then the best thing/line you can come up with is: "we don't get to pick our parents so "f-God and Jesus."
How desperate are you?
:Roflol:
That was great. Weak minded weak willed person wants to argue that interracial couples should not help prepare their children for the unique set of challenges they will face in life because they do not belong to any given race, by fishing for a racist or anti gay comments.
You are a terrible person. You are looking to discredit me (by trying to paint me as a racist or homophobic)and what I am trying to bring to the table by identifying a great need that all mixed raced people seem to share, A problem that i have personally experienced and found in others like me. A problem your supposed Grandkids will also have to deal with. All because you don't like me putting the onus of this responsibility on the parents? If not the Parent Then who?
People like you make me sick. You think what you believe now about how the world works is the only way, or is automatically the best way. this is the very type of closed minded cultural thinking that brings so much strife in the life of a mixed race child.
Just try to imagine a willfully ignorant person just as oblivious and proudful as you are, about what they think is the culturally 'right' way of doing things, but then try to imagine the way they are doing it is exactly the opposite of what you are doing.
Can you imagine the conflict that would stir up in a child? Now Imagine one parent teaching the child to view and work in the world your way and the other view and work the world in a completely opposite way. with the same self righteous ferver as you have displayed here. the same say anything and do anything to make you point, and then you see the selfishness I am talking about.
It's time to grow up g-ma and open your eyes to some of the world that your grand kids will have to deal with. Not the world you paint but the world waiting for them. Don't wait till it's too late, don't wait till they start having problems. Give them the tool to deal with issues before they become problems.
Fuck me, the only reason why any child might "need" any "preparation" is because cunts like you exist.
I have a mixed race niece, thankfully, in this country, it's about as big a problem as what colour her toe nails are.
(February 23, 2016 at 12:49 pm)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Fuck me, the only reason why any child might "need" any "preparation" is because cunts like you exist.
I have a mixed race niece, thankfully, in this country, it's about as big a problem as what colour her toe nails are.
Yeah, I'm not quite buying this idea that Drich's experience is the norm, at least in this country. My adopted French/Vietnamese cousin has never reported to me that she experienced special anguish at her "selfish" parents not adequately preparing her for the world, despite their being ill-equipped by racial/ethnic background to teach her all she may have wanted to know about her Vietnamese heritage. For that matter, my Korean wife and her Korean sister (not blood relatives but sisters through adoption) have never mentioned to me any sense of being deprived of their heritage or sense of belonging despite being raised in a white American home where the father was a secular Jew and the mother a practicing Protestant. In fact, my wife moves with ease between several different "communities" of people. I have a mixed race nephew (Korean/African-American) who doesn't suffer unduly; indeed, he seems to be one of the most popular kids in his class and has friends from a variety of backgrounds. The same is true of a niece from a previous marriage (white/African-American) who was similarly popular with her peers and at ease with both sides of her family. Then there's my gay cousin, his husband, and their adopted daughter. She's a bit young to give me an "informed opinion" on the matter, but I'll be sure to get back to you, Drich, if it turns out she would rather have been bounced around some foster homes or adopted by someone other than the only fathers she has ever known and who love her fiercely.
I'm sorry you had a rough go of it, Drich. But yours isn't the only experience that's relevant here. Just because you were surrounded by assholes doesn't mean everyone out there is an asshole.
(February 23, 2016 at 12:40 pm)Drich Wrote: I see you've elected to ignore all my hard speaking point and go for the things you think I can't argue.
(That is why I left you option three) I saw you were looking for a panic stop button for this conversation. You wanted/needed a "moral high road" something I would say that would allow to cuss God drop your mic and walk out. that is why you went 'fishing' with "black parents and gay parents" when Nothing being discussed mirrors either situation.
So I left you with "what if the children don't want gay parents?" Then the best thing/line you can come up with is: "we don't get to pick our parents so "f-God and Jesus."
How desperate are you?
:Roflol:
That was great. Weak minded weak willed person wants to argue that interracial couples should not help prepare their children for the unique set of challenges they will face in life because they do not belong to any given race, by fishing for a racist or anti gay comments.
You are a terrible person. You are looking to discredit me (by trying to paint me as a racist or homophobic)and what I am trying to bring to the table by identifying a great need that all mixed raced people seem to share, A problem that i have personally experienced and found in others like me. A problem your supposed Grandkids will also have to deal with. All because you don't like me putting the onus of this responsibility on the parents? If not the Parent Then who?
People like you make me sick. You think what you believe now about how the world works is the only way, or is automatically the best way. this is the very type of closed minded cultural thinking that brings so much strife in the life of a mixed race child.
Just try to imagine a willfully ignorant person just as oblivious and proudful as you are, about what they think is the culturally 'right' way of doing things, but then try to imagine the way they are doing it is exactly the opposite of what you are doing.
Can you imagine the conflict that would stir up in a child? Now Imagine one parent teaching the child to view and work in the world your way and the other view and work the world in a completely opposite way. with the same self righteous ferver as you have displayed here. the same say anything and do anything to make you point, and then you see the selfishness I am talking about.
It's time to grow up g-ma and open your eyes to some of the world that your grand kids will have to deal with. Not the world you paint but the world waiting for them. Don't wait till it's too late, don't wait till they start having problems. Give them the tool to deal with issues before they become problems.
You're the ignorant fuck here. Drawing strawmen.
Where the fuck did I say children shouldn't be prepared for adversity? Go ahead. Show me. Or is it that you don't like how I deal with adversity? I'm guessing that's it. You think YOUR way is the only way.
Multiracial parents aren't the problem. Racist fucks are the problem. That it was beat into your head that it's your fault for your supposed experience growing up, I'm truly sorry. I feel sorry for you growing up with those ideas. That somehow it's your fault, or your parents fault that there are racist assholes out there. But it's not your fault. It's not the fault of your parents, no matter how much you'd like for it to be. Your idea of what's 'right' for society is sick and twisted. I suggest you seek help.
(February 23, 2016 at 11:31 am)Drich Wrote: What did I loose exactly?
I am still the product of an interracial marriage, I still have the same problems and advantages I came into this discussion with, and I've shown that your and divinity's world view to be beyond naive.
I maintain that interracial couples tend to be selfish, and if they were and were even 1/2 prepared to undertake what they have put themselves and their children through they would not give two squirts about the title 'selfish.' How do I know this? because again not only was I an interracial child, I am in an interracial relationship..
So again, what did I lose exactly? Oh, you mean I lost you. You do not fully understand what is being discussed here. that you can only view the world as being 100% 'tolerant' in your personal strictest definition of the word or you get to be intolerant and nasty as you want to be, because what i say confuses you, and it is contrary to how you think the world work even though one of your peers confirmed everything I have said here so far drawing from her own life experience.
What my words do here is draw attention to a foundational crack in a sensitive area of society that people like you think it is not right to judge, or talk about, or even discuss in a non favorable way.. and what's worse is your either too stupid or too proud to admit that their is a very real problem that supports the facade you pretend is reality. I have posted example after example of people of mixed races struggling in society, because they do not belong to one race or the other. and you simply hold to your idea of what society should be, and some how you count this as a win???
If burring your head in the sand is a 'win' in your broken world.. then know I will always be happy to be counted as a loser to you and people like you.
You lose your argumentbecause of the chronic, debilitating tendency to regard your personal opinions and feelings, as incontestable FACTS; Just as you have in the bulk of your arguments on these forums.
(February 23, 2016 at 1:17 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: I'm sorry you had a rough go of it, Drich. But yours isn't the only experience that's relevant here. Just because you were surrounded by assholes doesn't mean everyone out there is an asshole.
(February 23, 2016 at 2:04 pm)Divinity Wrote: Multiracial parents aren't the problem. Racist fucks are the problem. That it was beat into your head that it's your fault for your supposed experience growing up, I'm truly sorry. I feel sorry for you growing up with those ideas. That somehow it's your fault, or your parents fault that there are racist assholes out there. But it's not your fault. It's not the fault of your parents, no matter how much you'd like for it to be. Your idea of what's 'right' for society is sick and twisted. I suggest you seek help.
Given dripshit's propensity to lie in other areas, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's lying here.
