(March 4, 2016 at 12:32 pm)Kitan Wrote:I see you have an interest in paganism. Is this not a belief in spirits?(March 4, 2016 at 2:31 am)AJW333 Wrote: I'm interested to know how you could be so confident.
The same way that most people are confident that leprechauns do not exist, despite there being no evidence for or against their existence.
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The Problem with Christians
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March 4, 2016 at 7:06 pm
(This post was last modified: March 4, 2016 at 7:08 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Just like having an interest in werewolf movies is a belief in shapeshifters, amiright.....?
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(March 4, 2016 at 12:42 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:This would seem to be the case with abiogenesis. There is no natural explanation of the phenomenon.(March 3, 2016 at 8:27 pm)AJW333 Wrote: Let's say we all accept that at some point life came from non-life. Let's say we also agree that from the laws of physics and from natural phenomena, we cannot explain how this happened. Until such time as a rational explanation can be offered, tested and proved, it would be reasonable to label abiogenesis as a supernatural event (using the definition as supplied).  RE: The Problem with Christians
March 4, 2016 at 7:09 pm
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(March 4, 2016 at 7:04 pm)AJW333 Wrote: I see you have an interest in paganism. Is this not a belief in spirits? I say this with all the courtesy I can muster under the circumstances. Either you're an idiot, lacking basic reading skills or you're misinterpreting on purpose. I suspect the latter to be the case, since I never got any answer from you regarding my question of why your god is more plausible than Odin, Zeus or Osiris. To be concrete, I asked you, if you consider them myths and added that your god is on the same lines for us as them. ![[Image: Bumper+Sticker+-+Asheville+-+Praise+Dog3.JPG]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d-3rfdI7nG0%2FTerwtFyFXoI%2FAAAAAAAACak%2F7kFSmHeVrng%2Fs320%2FBumper%2BSticker%2B-%2BAsheville%2B-%2BPraise%2BDog3.JPG)
RE: The Problem with Christians
March 4, 2016 at 7:18 pm
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(March 4, 2016 at 12:46 pm)abaris Wrote:That doesn't prove the absence of a supernatural phenomenon. It simply means that there was no scientific evaluation of it at the time.(March 4, 2016 at 12:42 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: It refers to there being no natural explanation of the phenomenon in principle, that no explanation would be correct, whether by accident or otherwise.There is no supernatural phenomenon, since all we have are observations by people of something they couldn't explain. (March 4, 2016 at 7:03 pm)abaris Wrote:Would you believe me?(March 4, 2016 at 7:02 pm)AJW333 Wrote: Considering gravity, if I was to observe a heavy rock just float off into the sky, would that be a violation of the law of gravity or would we have to change our "model" of how gravity works? (March 4, 2016 at 7:18 pm)AJW333 Wrote: That doesn't prove the absence of a supernatural phenomenon. It simply means that there was no scientific evaluation of it at the time. There are never any scientific evaluations at any time. What you don't get or don't want to get is a simple rule: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Otherwise they're just myths, rumour, hearsay or whatever. So, concrete question: Provide your extraordinary evidence for the supernatural. And no, someone's second cousin taking a shit on the lawn of someone who just talked about the supernatural, doesn't count.
(March 4, 2016 at 7:09 pm)abaris Wrote:My God is more plausible than any other because he tells us the future with great precision. Did Zeus do that?(March 4, 2016 at 7:04 pm)AJW333 Wrote: I see you have an interest in paganism. Is this not a belief in spirits? (March 4, 2016 at 7:23 pm)AJW333 Wrote: My God is more plausible than any other because he tells us the future with great precision. Did Zeus do that? Clarify. Stone cold evidence for god foretelling what is happening now will do. And no, cryptic gobbledigock, up for any kind of interpretation won't.
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March 4, 2016 at 7:26 pm
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(March 4, 2016 at 7:23 pm)AJW333 Wrote: My God is more plausible than any other because he tells us the future with great precision. Did Zeus do that? Say what? I would like an example. It was prophesied that Cronus would be overthrown by one of his children. Zeus punished his father, Cronos, by forcing him to wander the Desert of Lost Souls with Pandora's Temple chained to his back forever.
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-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy (March 4, 2016 at 7:22 pm)abaris Wrote:So all those scientists who write journal articles claiming to be making scientific observations are either lying or deluded?(March 4, 2016 at 7:18 pm)AJW333 Wrote: That doesn't prove the absence of a supernatural phenomenon. It simply means that there was no scientific evaluation of it at the time. (March 4, 2016 at 7:22 pm)abaris Wrote: What you don't get or don't want to get is a simple rule: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.Abiogenesis would appear to be an extraordinary claim with a lack of evidence, yes? (March 4, 2016 at 7:22 pm)abaris Wrote: So, concrete question: Provide your extraordinary evidence for the supernatural.Somehow I think that might be a futile exercise. Is there anything I could say that would make you a believer? Be honest now. |
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