(March 14, 2016 at 10:15 am)Drich Wrote: The bible is just turn by turn direction to find God... In the statement "there is no argument to prove God" your right. You can prove the validity turn by turn directions, any more rationally than you can argue the existence of God. But, to assume that turn by turn direction can only be vetted though argument is also incorrect. Directions are vetted by one following said directions. If they take you where they are said to lead then the directions are valid. Likewise if the directions in the bible take you to God then the bible is indeed validated. No 'argument' needed.

Anyone using the wholly babble for directions is going to end up wandering the Sahara in confusion - like the Hebrews never did.  

Does he think we're going to suddenly accept the bible as credible evidence, after presenting it for the billionth time?

Funny how in the Bible miracles were numerous and often and served as undeniable evidence for the notion that God exists and Jesus is his son/himself. Wonder why miracles are so shitty and hoaxed nowadays...

You can't just write stuff down and it's instantly true anymore. That window closed about 1500 years ago.

Yet approximately 90% of the world believes in a god. 31% are Christians. The number of Christians grows each year. If the projected total will reach 3 billion by 2050, there is approximately 1 new Christian every 1.22 seconds for the next 34 years. Proportions expected to be roughly the same. 13% were convinced atheists in 2012. Only 11% in 2015.

People are not convinced with your arguments and/or have sufficient reasons for believing in god in general or being a Christian specifically. Before you whine about appealing to numbers, I am pointing out that perhaps you think too highly of your arguments that you think are so obvious when a ridiculous majority hold a different view--even after 150 years since Origin of the Species.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

(March 14, 2016 at 5:17 pm)SteveII Wrote: Yet approximately 90% of the world believes in a god. 31% are Christians. The number of Christians grows each year. If the projected total will reach 3 billion by 2050, there is approximately 1 new Christian every 1.22 seconds for the next 34 years. Proportions expected to be roughly the same. 13% were convinced atheists in 2012. Only 11% in 2015.

People are not convinced with your arguments and/or have sufficient reasons for believing in god in general or being a Christian specifically. Before you whine about appealing to numbers, I am pointing out that perhaps you think too highly of your arguments that you think are so obvious when a ridiculous majority hold a different view--even after 150 years since Origin of the Species.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

...so?

(March 14, 2016 at 10:15 am)Drich Wrote: The bible is just turn by turn direction to find God... In the statement "there is no argument to prove God" your right. You can prove the validity turn by turn directions, any more rationally than you can argue the existence of God. But, to assume that turn by turn direction can only be vetted though argument is also incorrect. Directions are vetted by one following said directions. If they take you where they are said to lead then the directions are valid. Likewise if the directions in the bible take you to God then the bible is indeed validated. No 'argument' needed.

Has anyone ever seen the movie, "Wrong Turn"?

Most, the vast majority, of the believers have never had a conception/thought that there needs to be an argument for existence. It just is, no questions asked. They are happy in their bliss, with their status quo. Why rock the boat? Just as you're told and all will be fine.

Of course, turn-by-turn directions actually take you to a tangible destination that, you know, exists outside of our own imaginations....

(March 14, 2016 at 5:38 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:

(March 14, 2016 at 5:17 pm)SteveII Wrote: Yet approximately 90% of the world believes in a god. 31% are Christians. The number of Christians grows each year. If the projected total will reach 3 billion by 2050, there is approximately 1 new Christian every 1.22 seconds for the next 34 years. Proportions expected to be roughly the same. 13% were convinced atheists in 2012. Only 11% in 2015.

People are not convinced with your arguments and/or have sufficient reasons for believing in god in general or being a Christian specifically. Before you whine about appealing to numbers, I am pointing out that perhaps you think too highly of your arguments that you think are so obvious when a ridiculous majority hold a different view--even after 150 years since Origin of the Species.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

...so?

So you agree that perhaps you think too highly of your arguments? That they are not as obvious as you think? From what you guys write in this forum, you would think that you are just waiting for the last 8 Christians to give in to your wisdom.