(March 22, 2016 at 9:59 pm)Rekeisha Wrote:

(March 19, 2016 at 3:12 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

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 ^^ THIS ^^  In spades.  Bravo, Redbeard.  Rekeisha can't think and can't read the wholly babble and see it for what it is because she's terrified. She thinks that it would be a sin. She thinks gawd gave her a brain only for the reason to sing Jeebus songs with her peeps in church.  

"Gal 6:7-8 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked"  
 
Ok. That sick moronic evil book you worship?  bibviz.com can show you over 600 comparative scriptures where the silly book of myths disagrees with itself. (But of course, you won't go check it out because your "loving" imaginary sky-daddy will fry you forever it you do. Well, then, don't look at the next tiny little list either, your feet will start to burn.

And now you won't even look up those verses because as an atheist (who has most of the evil book memorized) I'm simply WRONG. 

God doesn't exist. Verse 29 in Mark 3 states that there is one sin considered eternal and that is "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit". Ok, the Holy Spirit doesn't exist either, and the concept sucks rancid pond scum.  So now I have happily committed the unforgivable sin and I don't have to put up with this bullshit anymore.

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Don't believe everything you think. I good, I am on God's side. Tell yourself those lies but it won't save you.

Right.  Your imaginary friend tells you that you're better than everyone else. That's why there is a huge correlation between crime and fundamentalism.
And when somebody doesn't recognize your superiority, you make threats.  It's quite astounding that people don't just line up begging you to tell them how to behave like you do.  Keep it up.  People like you CREATE atheists.  

(March 22, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Rekeisha Wrote:

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(March 20, 2016 at 12:42 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Tell me rekeisha, is your hair above your shoulders? Do you eat cheese on a hamburger, or have dairy with anything else? Do you have a wool jacket? Do you have all cotton underthings? Do you submit to your husband even when you are not feeling well? Do you have and/or keep slaves?

You cannot cherry pick the pleasant things in your bible and continue to ignore the fact that your god murdered thousands of innocent men, women, children and infants. You cannot ignore the fact that your god sent plagues to people and tortured them needlessly. He flooded a whole goddamn planet and wiped out everythingon earth except a select few lucky humans and animals. He's told his believers to kill their own children for his sake.

If you're going to believe that your god is loving then you must also believe your god is a deceiver, is cruel, unfair, biased, narcissistic, a murderer, a proponent of human trafficking, slavery and is misogynistic, along with a whole bunch of other unpleasant things.

If you refuse to believe that, then you are more brainwashed and more far gone than we realize.
And I feel sorry for you.

For the rest of us who actually live in reality, we are the fortunate ones who will never have to experience the evilness that is your "god".

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Quote:Do you understand the narrative of the Bible? Since you made your statement above I don't think you do.  The entire law was a "schoolmaster" to let the jews know that you can't fulfill the law without the spirit of God. It is a tool to bring about humility. So that we can see that we are a sinners in need of grace from God. That grace came through the cross when Jesus died for our sins. Now that I have accepted God I am under the law of the Spirit. I have new desires and those desires move me toward the things of God. Also I have already talked about slavery you are assuming that the slavery spoken about in the laws was the same as those around Judaism and or in America past or even today.

You shouldn't lie to yourself and misread the Bible and create a false god to disbelieve in, it won't save you. I believe and know the true and living God. He isn't like us and your small thoughts about Him will not bring Him down, but instead it will keep you enslaved to your sin and self delusion. 

So like I said to Redbeard your belief system can't explain reality, it can't give you worth, it can't give you objective truth. You pretend that you understand reality. Your system is shallow and will not be able to support you when you truly need real answers about the heard and difficult question you have. You are blindly following everyone else around pretending that one day you will not have to give an account for you actions. God is gracious actually He is rich in grace. The fact that you have the opportunity to type your blasphemous words about Him shows His kindness. Play the game if you wish but it will cost you your soul. Pretend to be more enlightened than I am but it will not save you. Only God can.

When you became a Christian did you start to hate your family?  Did you leave them and go on the road preaching about your new best buddy Jesus?  As a Gentile how do you think you will ever get into the golden cube called New Jerusalem when there's no gate for you to enter through?

(March 22, 2016 at 9:22 pm)Rekeisha Wrote:

(March 19, 2016 at 11:42 am)drfuzzy Wrote: Superstition. Brainwashing. Worshiping a deeply flawed book of evil fables.

Then your definition of christianity isn't Biblical making it fallacious. The next question is what criteria did the survey takers use to define who was a christian. Also, where those in jail christians before or after they got into jail. Third what are the inmates definition of christianity. Fourth does God recognize them as His.

Your wholly babble was written by xenophobic, misogynistic, tribal, ignorant goat herders. Your gawd does not exist.  It's all in your head, quite literally.  When you pray, you're yammering at AIR and nothing else.  And, just on the off chance that your imaginary friend exists, then if he has one-billionth of the abilities you claim he does, he doesn't need you to speak for him.  He doesn't need you to splatter your illogical bullshit onto atheist forums and shove it in people's faces.  IF he exists, he can speak for himself.  If he can't speak for himself, he isn't worth a second's thought.

(March 23, 2016 at 3:36 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(March 22, 2016 at 9:22 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: Then your definition of christianity isn't Biblical making it fallacious. The next question is what criteria did the survey takers use to define who was a christian. Also, where those in jail christians before or after they got into jail. Third what are the inmates definition of christianity. Fourth does God recognize them as His.

Your wholly babble was written by xenophobic, misogynistic, tribal, ignorant goat herders. Your gawd does not exist.  It's all in your head, quite literally.  When you pray, you're yammering at AIR and nothing else.  And, just on the off chance that your imaginary friend exists, then if he has one-billionth of the abilities you claim he does, he doesn't need you to speak for him.  He doesn't need you to splatter your illogical bullshit onto atheist forums and shove it in people's faces.  IF he exists, he can speak for himself.  If he can't speak for himself, he isn't worth a second's thought.

Lord Shiva will get you for that, DrFuzzy... just you wait and see! You'll be so sorry you didn't believe in, trust in the Scriptures of, and obey The Creator and Destroyer of the universe.

I have never, NEVER, met a Christian who can give me a logical answer for why we both feel the same way about Shiva being the imaginary creation of a billion Hindus, but they still feel free to tell me about how THEIR god really, really wants me to believe, really wants me to obey THOSE scriptures (not those, THESE!), and wants to give me a "free gift" in exchange for my obedience OR ELSE BURN!

I would love to do a video series where I travel the world interviewing various types of religious fundamentalist, as they explain to me why I must conform to the local god-cult, and show a montage a la The Daily Show why they all sound exactly like one another, just with the details fiddled a bit. And every one would tell me that THEIR deity/scripture was REAL, while everyone else just made it up because that's what ignorant humans trying to explain things they don't understand do.

(March 24, 2016 at 9:43 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:

(March 23, 2016 at 3:36 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

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Your wholly babble was written by xenophobic, misogynistic, tribal, ignorant goat herders. Your gawd does not exist.  It's all in your head, quite literally.  When you pray, you're yammering at AIR and nothing else.  And, just on the off chance that your imaginary friend exists, then if he has one-billionth of the abilities you claim he does, he doesn't need you to speak for him.  He doesn't need you to splatter your illogical bullshit onto atheist forums and shove it in people's faces.  IF he exists, he can speak for himself.  If he can't speak for himself, he isn't worth a second's thought.

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Lord Shiva will get you for that, DrFuzzy... just you wait and see! You'll be so sorry you didn't believe in, trust in the Scriptures of, and obey The Creator and Destroyer of the universe.

I have never, NEVER, met a Christian who can give me a logical answer for why we both feel the same way about Shiva being the imaginary creation of a billion Hindus, but they still feel free to tell me about how THEIR god really, really wants me to believe, really wants me to obey THOSE scriptures (not those, THESE!), and wants to give me a "free gift" in exchange for my obedience OR ELSE BURN!

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I would love to do a video series where I travel the world interviewing various types of religious fundamentalist, as they explain to me why I must conform to the local god-cult, and show a montage a la The Daily Show why they all sound exactly like one another, just with the details fiddled a bit. And every one would tell me that THEIR deity/scripture was REAL, while everyone else just made it up because that's what ignorant humans trying to explain things they don't understand do.

If I should win the lottery or something, RocketMan, I'd fund you. But only if you let me travel along and help with the recording!

(March 24, 2016 at 9:47 am)drfuzzy Wrote:

(March 24, 2016 at 9:43 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:

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Lord Shiva will get you for that, DrFuzzy... just you wait and see! You'll be so sorry you didn't believe in, trust in the Scriptures of, and obey The Creator and Destroyer of the universe.

I have never, NEVER, met a Christian who can give me a logical answer for why we both feel the same way about Shiva being the imaginary creation of a billion Hindus, but they still feel free to tell me about how THEIR god really, really wants me to believe, really wants me to obey THOSE scriptures (not those, THESE!), and wants to give me a "free gift" in exchange for my obedience OR ELSE BURN!

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I would love to do a video series where I travel the world interviewing various types of religious fundamentalist, as they explain to me why I must conform to the local god-cult, and show a montage a la The Daily Show why they all sound exactly like one another, just with the details fiddled a bit. And every one would tell me that THEIR deity/scripture was REAL, while everyone else just made it up because that's what ignorant humans trying to explain things they don't understand do.

If I should win the lottery or something, RocketMan, I'd fund you. But only if you let me travel along and help with the recording!

Everyone knows that if the sponsor wants to work on the project, you hire them!!

Besides, I'd like to have you along. 

(March 22, 2016 at 10:45 pm)Nymphadora Wrote:

(March 22, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: Do you understand the narrative of the Bible? Since you made your statement above I don't think you do.  The entire law was a "schoolmaster" to let the jews know that you can't fulfill the law without the spirit of God. It is a tool to bring about humility. So that we can see that we are a sinners in need of grace from God. That grace came through the cross when Jesus died for our sins. Now that I have accepted God I am under the law of the Spirit. I have new desires and those desires move me toward the things of God. Also I have already talked about slavery you are assuming that the slavery spoken about in the laws was the same as those around Judaism and or in America past or even today.

You shouldn't lie to yourself and misread the Bible and create a false god to disbelieve in, it won't save you. I believe and know the true and living God. He isn't like us and your small thoughts about Him will not bring Him down, but instead it will keep you enslaved to your sin and self delusion. 

So like I said to Redbeard your belief system can't explain reality, it can't give you worth, it can't give you objective truth. You pretend that you understand reality. Your system is shallow and will not be able to support you when you truly need real answers about the heard and difficult question you have. You are blindly following everyone else around pretending that one day you will not have to give an account for you actions. God is gracious actually He is rich in grace. The fact that you have the opportunity to type your blasphemous words about Him shows His kindness. Play the game if you wish but it will cost you your soul. Pretend to be more enlightened than I am but it will not save you. Only God can.

How smart you think you must be. You conveniently avoid answering any of my questions. You don't provide proof of anything and yet here you are, sitting in judgment, doing something your god wouldn't want you to do. 

I have read the bible. And that is precisely why those questions were asked to you. So, by your own avoidance of those questions, you come off as unintelligent and unable to really get to the heart of the truth. And that is that you, my dear, are nothing more than a hypocrite. There is no game playing here, so it won't cost my soul one penny. If you can't recognize that your god is cruel, unjust, wreckless and narcissistic, then there is no hope for you. If you have to move your goal posts in order to avoid answering the simplest of questions, then you're just wasting my time.

You may have read the bible but you have not understood it. If you had you would have seen that I did answer your question except the one about submitting to my husband.  I will right now. So my husband is a picture of Christ and I am a picture of the Church. My husband like Christ is called to live his life to protect me, keep me holy and die for me. He is called to love me as if I were his own body. (feed, protect, clean, look after me, keep me from harm). I in turn should respect him. Hey, my husband has a heavy load so all I have to is respect and submit. We have a mission and it is to glorify God. So he doesn't neglect my abilities he just is the leader. I am called to help him lead. This love relationship with my husband and me is a small picture of what Christ has done for His church. He laid down His life so that I can become attached to Him for the rest of eternity. Where He goes I go. He protects the church, His people, like He would his own body. He makes us holy with His grace and love. This isn't an evil God.

Also about judging, I can judge but not in my own human understanding but by God's standards. I have been given the Holy Spirit and by that Spirit I can know the mind of Christ. Through prayer, bible study and communing with God He makes His spirit conform me to His image. So when you write foolish things like God is cruel, unjust, wreckless, narcissist it shows that you lack understanding. You have created your own god out of your own imagination. This misunderstanding is what God is seeking to help you with.

Again, wasting time here. But thank you for your response. I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this.

(March 23, 2016 at 5:09 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:

(March 22, 2016 at 9:38 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: I love you man! Still, don't always believe what you think. 

I know God He isn't some shallow idea maybe your religion was but He isn't. The heart is deceitful one day it likes this one thing one day it doesn't. Why do you believe in your heart anyway? Is it because the culture around you tells you that to know yourself you must trust in your heart? The deal is God is real not superficial and can handle not only reality but your hardest deepest problems. Your belief system can't give you worth, it can give you a reason for existence, it can give you a bases on which to judge. You are the one with no objective truth. You are the one who has to rely on society to give you anything. You are the one lost and blind and the only way to reality is through the saving grace of God. 

My friend I have not failed you don't even know what the objective is. You don't know the future and you hardly understand the past. You don't have a clear view of anything. God is in full control and He never fails. His word is good. He can save you from your sin through the blood of Jesus or you can be judged in your sin. 

Again trying to place yourself above me with your pretense of intellectual superiority will not save you. You need humility. Love you dude hope you have a fantastic night!

You have already stated that you think I deserve to burn in Hell forever, and you have repeatedly called me a liar by refusing to acknowledge the veracity of my faith, which was sincerely held for over 20 years. You are not my friend, and you do not love me.


Hearts aren't for believing. Brains are for believing. Hearts just pump blood. Don't be an idiot.


Nobody said I don't have objective truth; quite the opposite. I believe in objective reality and objective truth (I've referenced both multiple times). I just don't believe in objective morality because it doesn't exist. The system you're proposing isn't even "objective morality," but "Divine Command Theory," which is completely arbitrary and subjective and is not at all the same thing as objective morality. Even if you were right, Gaud were real, and all his rules were morally binding, that still wouldn't be objective morality, and that's not what you're actually arguing for. The fact that you can't see this is yet more evidence of the damage religion has done to your thinking processes.


I don't think there's any need for pretense. The difference between us is quite plain. You believe in magic and won't listen to anything that's said to you unless it comes out of a Bronze Age book of fable and superstition (but only if it's your favorite).

Everyone deserves to burn in hell forever. 

You have yet to explain what reality is but you say you believe in it. 

God is reality because there is no lie in Him. He is the truth from Him come everything and you can't even understand anything without him. You can't even understand the bible without him. I don't doubt that you were sincere about your religion and your faith, but you didn't have faith in God because once you are with God it is impossible to leave.

(March 23, 2016 at 3:36 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(March 22, 2016 at 9:22 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: Then your definition of christianity isn't Biblical making it fallacious. The next question is what criteria did the survey takers use to define who was a christian. Also, where those in jail christians before or after they got into jail. Third what are the inmates definition of christianity. Fourth does God recognize them as His.

Your wholly babble was written by xenophobic, misogynistic, tribal, ignorant goat herders. Your gawd does not exist.  It's all in your head, quite literally.  When you pray, you're yammering at AIR and nothing else.  And, just on the off chance that your imaginary friend exists, then if he has one-billionth of the abilities you claim he does, he doesn't need you to speak for him.  He doesn't need you to splatter your illogical bullshit onto atheist forums and shove it in people's faces.  IF he exists, he can speak for himself.  If he can't speak for himself, he isn't worth a second's thought.

No you are wrong. God is real not imaginary and I don't pray to air. I pray to the creator of the universe who has all power and deserved honor and glory. He runs, reigns and rules  all things. The only reason you can even breath is because of him. He has measured your days and one day you will make an account for every word you uttered, thought, or wrote. 

Yes, you are right there will be a day He will speak for Himself and can even speak to you now if you would humble yourself. I just have the privilege at the moment to speak for Him.You assume He isn't speaking. You sin suppresses the truth about Hm. It is better for you that I speak to you than that He would speak to you. 

You say I shove it in your face, but you don't have to even engage with me. I am on one thread in this forum. You have come over here to engage with me. Don't pretend that I am stalking you with what I have to say. You are not a victim. 

Your false notions about who God is is laughable. He isn't hoping you will just believe in Him. Like some lonely being seeking friendship. "Oh pretty please believe in me". It is for your sake. It is a mercy to you that He even gives you a chance to know HIm. You will hear the voice of God. You can either hear it as a loved child of God or you can hear it and you will be destroyed by it.