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(April 22, 2016 at 2:58 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Oh we understand what the story claims, bub. We just think it's hilarious that you can't see the marks of a man turned into a myth, then into a god.
God became a man, to show us the way by being a sinless human. He became such a man that he begged himself not to force himself to let himself be murdered so a plan made by himself (to allow humans to be forgiven--by him--of sins, which he made up himself) could go forth. He then asked why he had forsaken himself, as he was being murdered.
Yeah. Sounds like a god. Nope! Sounds like a regular old apocalyptic preacher killed by the Romans to keep the peace, and turned into a legend by his followers. You just can't see that because you're still in the cult.
I would think you would be more concerned as to why God has blind you to the reality of Christ.
GC
If you love your imaginary frind so much why did you just call him a prick?
(April 22, 2016 at 10:30 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote:
(April 22, 2016 at 10:09 am)Godschild Wrote: I would think you would be more concerned as to why God has blind you to the reality of Christ.
GC
If you love your imaginary frind so much why did you just call him a prick?
I didn't, I'm responding to your lack of understanding of the scriptures. "The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts (literally "things") of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Cor. 2:14) and 2 Cor.3:14-16; 4:3, 6; Heb. 5:14; James 1:5-6; 2 Peter 3:5; John 17:7; 8:43. That's a few reasons why I know you don't know. Sin gets in the way of all people to understand, but the Christian is forgiven and when they seek Gods guidance through scripture they will be guided to understanding, 1 Cor. 2:14; 1:18-25; James 1:5-6; 22-25.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(April 21, 2016 at 12:01 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: You're overlooking another factor: when the story starts over, in Genesis 2, the story refers to God by another name. It's pretty clear that this is a cut-and-paste job by a group trying to "align" multiple traditions. It's one of the things that triggered investigation into the Documentary Hypothesis in the first place.
ah... No.
Genesis 1 actually ends on the seventh day in Genesis 2:3 Genesis 2 actually starts out in verse 4:
4 This is the story about the creation of the sky and the earth. This is what happened when the Lord God made the earth and the sky. 5 This was before there were plants on the earth. Nothing was growing in the fields because the Lord God had not yet made it rain on the earth, and there was no one to care for the plants.
So a learn-ed man would ask what day did God make earth and sky but no plants, and rather than read some douche's commentary to tell the less learn-ed man what to think the less Learn-ed man would simply go back to Genesis 1 and look for Himself rather than seek out an over convoluded theory that pushes an agenda the more learn-ed man wants to adopt. This is what He would find:
The Second Day—Sky
6 Then God said, “Let there be a space[c] to separate the water into two parts!” 7 So God made the space and separated the water. Some of the water was above it, and some of the water was below it. 8 God named that space “sky.” There was evening, and then there was morning. This was the second day.
The Third Day—Dry Land and Plants
9 Then God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered together so that the dry land will appear.” And it happened. 10 God named the dry land “earth,” and he named the water that was gathered together “seas.” And God saw that this was good.11 Then God said, “Let the earth grow grass, plants that make grain, and fruit trees. The fruit trees will make fruit with seeds in it. And each plant will make its own kind of seed. Let these plants grow on the earth.” And it happened.
Ok, so after the Second Day, but before verse 11 where Plants grew, is when the WHOLE of GENESIS 2 verse 4 and forward describes.
So here is an example of what Paul said "God will use simple to confound and make fools of the wise and supposedly learn-ed."
Quote:Genesis 2 is not a retelling, of G1. Genesis 2 is a garden specific account. Meaning man made in the image of God happened in the garden on Day 3 and everything else Genesis 1 talks about is in a correct order but happened outside the garden, on the day Genesis 1 records.
OK, so while Adam & Eve were running around naked in the Garden of Eden, what do you think the people in Arabia, Ethiopia, Assyria, and Persia were doing?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(April 20, 2016 at 10:25 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If God died then the universe doesn't need him to exist. Consequently God is irrelevant.
A man died, he was also God but without His powers. Christ laid down his powers in heaven to become a man capable of sin. If Christ had come with his powers He would not have been able to sin, this is very important to understand, if you don't you'll never be able to understand why He was the perfect man (sinless) who sacrificed his life for mankind. See what happens when you refuse to study the scriptures and find out what they actually say, you make your own version of the story, a version that's little more than a lie.
GC
According to the Bible you're going to be tossed into the lake of fire for bitching about my interpretation of your favorite ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairy tale.
(April 22, 2016 at 10:30 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: If you love your imaginary frind so much why did you just call him a prick?
I didn't, I'm responding to your lack of understanding of the scriptures.
You did, by accusing him of the deliberately prickish act of intentionally blinding others to him. So yeah, GC believes his imaginary friend is a prick.
Oh, and thanks for at least having the decency of not going the idiotic route of trying to prove the voice in your head is not your imagination, GC. It seems that you may be learning something after all, viz not ot argue a point with those who know more on the subject than you do.
(April 18, 2016 at 11:54 am)Cherubim Wrote: Hello,
I am here only to share the truth.
Not sure if this has been asked, but my question is as follows:
Do feel you at all condescending to those that don't know "the truth" by so confidently stating that you do? OR is that not even a problem since whatever they feel is by your premise "the false", since you know "the truth"?
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