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RE: NC Gov on the wrong side of history......
May 15, 2016 at 8:15 pm
Whoa! And when I went to watch TLR again, myself, I saw this ad from Absolut. Way to go, Absolut!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHCzV2F...verified=1
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RE: NC Gov on the wrong side of history......
May 15, 2016 at 8:25 pm
(May 15, 2016 at 8:15 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Whoa! And when I went to watch TLR again, myself, I saw this ad from Absolut. Way to go, Absolut!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHCzV2F...verified=1
That made me cry. Why can't everyone be like the character in the ad? Isn't it easier and nicer to go through life being accepting rather than bigoted and horrible?
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May 15, 2016 at 8:33 pm
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I expect nothing less from Absolut, they've been vocally pro-LGBT for a long time, before it was popular opinion. However, I think the ad seems a little rushed to me with that script, like the actor had to rush to fit all the lines into a one minute ad, but I appreciate the message, it's sweet.
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May 15, 2016 at 9:10 pm
The whole campaign is done in that staccato voice-pattern, because it's a lot to tell in 30 seconds, or a minute.
They have a couple of other good ones, one about a wife who has lost her husband, but his friends come over to see her, they hug, and go out to party all night in celebration of her lost husband's life. The other's about helping a friend smile after he ended a relationship.
It's a really powerful series of emotions, in all of them. Kudos to their ad people. Positive social message while yet pimping your poison. Even if it is pretty tasty poison. 
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May 16, 2016 at 2:38 am
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(May 15, 2016 at 8:13 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Oh, and if you haven't seen the basis of Blue's response to Trae Crowder "Liberal Redneck" comments video, it totally deserves a view:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov-ocQpQtrw
Here's one for the liberals from Amiri King
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTcYdVHNmks
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RE: NC Gov on the wrong side of history......
May 16, 2016 at 2:39 am
I actually looked at a YouTube comments section for the first time in years.
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RE: NC Gov on the wrong side of history......
May 16, 2016 at 3:09 am
(May 16, 2016 at 2:38 am)A Theist Wrote: Here's one for the liberals from Amiri King
I typically like Amiri King. However, on that video, he's exhibiting more than a little bit of selection bias, "counting the hits while ignoring the misses", so to speak. There have been many violence-prone, belligerent idiots on both sides of that political furball, from out on the fringes of each movement. People on both sides who point to the extremes are idiots to do so, unless they can demonstrate that such attitude is shared by the ordinary member, or the majority of the membership of the group being described. He doing what is called a Hasty Generalization fallacy, in other words.
If you think for a moment that the people to whom Amiri is referring in that video are representative of "YOU LIBERALS!", then you've been watching waaaaaayyyyy too much Faux News.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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May 16, 2016 at 3:10 am
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Oh, and I think it should be pointed out that not all of us are liberals. Far from it, in fact. However, our conservatives tend to be a bit more broad-minded than appears to be the average, and do not bring religious prejudices into their thinking, so they tend to disagree with what I'm fairly certain at this point would be your position on many things, from science to Constitutional rights.
Edit to Add: In all seriousness, why would any conservative want to expand the government's reach into private lives, such as one of the most private of all acts, the use of restrooms? It's not a conservative position, and only the Christian prejudices being enacted into law cause this strange "inter-species" ideological marriage to be possible.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: NC Gov on the wrong side of history......
May 16, 2016 at 3:32 am
(May 15, 2016 at 4:45 pm)A Theist Wrote: (May 11, 2016 at 3:26 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Just a little nitpick, being transgender doesn't include 'dressing like' anything.
hmmm....since obama and loretta lynch's justice dept. are pushing in favor of transgenders using the bathrooms of the sex they identify with, what's to keep a child molester, or a voyeur, or a rapist from saying he identifies with being a woman just to gain access to women's restrooms? Have obama and lynch put any safeguards in place to prevent something like this from happening? The NC law seems to be the only safeguard at this point.
Whats to stop sexual predators from pretending they're women with these "protective" laws in place?
Are you gojng to put cops on every communal bathroon door and mandate they give a groinal squeeze to every single person who enters?
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May 16, 2016 at 3:47 am
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(May 16, 2016 at 3:10 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Edit to Add: In all seriousness, why would any conservative want to expand the government's reach into private lives, such as one of the most private of all acts, the use of restrooms? It's not a conservative position, and only the Christian prejudices being enacted into law cause this strange "inter-species" ideological marriage to be possible.
Well when you consider the genesis of conservative movements in Europe, which was essentially groups of monarchists getting together and implementing a policy of returning (or keeping) the absolute monarchist systems being then eroded in their countries. In fact the original Conservative party grew out of the old Tory party (named after an anglisation of an Irsh word for brigand), who thought the civil war and later glorious revolution were a horrible mistake, it makes sense. Conservative means preserving the mores of the past in the present a lot more than it means economic liberalisn.
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