Quote:It is the only serious explanation for the explosion of the church right around that time with hundreds claiming to have seen him.

Actually, a much better explanation is that the savior myth (which was rampant in Palestine at the time) was exacerbated by a rather unwelcome Roman occupation (to put it mildly). And the claims of 'hundreds of people' wasn't written down for close on a century after the supposed event.

Boru

(May 21, 2016 at 8:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:It is the only serious explanation for the explosion of the church right around that time with hundreds claiming to have seen him.

Actually, a much better explanation is that the savior myth (which was rampant in Palestine at the time) was exacerbated by a rather unwelcome Roman occupation (to put it mildly).  And the claims of 'hundreds of people' wasn't written down for close on a century after the supposed event.

Boru

The whole savior cult itself is not original either to christianity as there were tons of others before it.

(May 21, 2016 at 9:38 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(May 21, 2016 at 8:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, a much better explanation is that the savior myth (which was rampant in Palestine at the time) was exacerbated by a rather unwelcome Roman occupation (to put it mildly).  And the claims of 'hundreds of people' wasn't written down for close on a century after the supposed event.

Boru

The whole savior cult itself is not original either to christianity as there were tons of others before it.

No argument.

Boru

(May 21, 2016 at 2:45 pm)AAA Wrote:

(May 21, 2016 at 2:28 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: The prostate.  There's damning evidence against a competent design.

Go investigate the laryngeal nerve in mammals, particularly the giraffe.  It's simultaneously supportive of common descent and an indictment of competent design, and if you can't see that plainly, you're hopelessly biased.

Have you ever dissected a cadaver? In our anatomy and physiology labs we had to memorize and identify all the major nerves in the human cadavers. One thing that you will notice about the nerves is that they continuously branch off. I have never dissected a giraffe, but I'm guessing the laryngeal nerve takes the seemingly strange route because it branches off at specific locations. Many times the nerve branches off close to the target so that communication between the target and the CNS can occur more quickly.

Ao you didn't actually look into it, right? Because if you had, you wouldn't have said something so utterly irrelevant.

(May 21, 2016 at 2:42 pm)AAA Wrote: There's so much going on in the cell that you don't even want to acknowledge. There are control mechanisms that make our electronic circuits rediculously childish. There are layers upon layers of information that are being continuously unpacked, read, and repacked. But you complain that your esophagus is too close to your trachea? You better be thankful that someone just happened to have an epiglottis in order for our species to survive the evolution of that setup.

No, dumbass. I complain that the plumbing actually crosses resulting in thousands of deaths from asphyxiation every year, despite the epiglottis. For such an "educated" person (or so you claim) you sure come of as an fucking moron. And, what about putting our reproductive organs in the dirtiest, nastiest location on out bodies? How about giving us eyes that are barely adequate when other species have far better eyes. You just keep clinging to the microscopic (although there's plenty there to complain about as well) or better yet, actually get a fucking education instead of just pretending.

(May 21, 2016 at 8:27 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You didn't acknowledge GB's the point; that an all powerful, all intelligent being should have used a little foresight in his planning.  All you gave in this response is more red herrings.  I wonder why they is?

Because he can't answer why there are design flaws in an intelligently designed organism, especially considering his intelligent agent is allegedly perfect. He'll whitwash over them, belittle them and ignore them, but he can't explain them.

(May 21, 2016 at 10:59 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(May 21, 2016 at 2:45 pm)AAA Wrote: Have you ever dissected a cadaver? In our anatomy and physiology labs we had to memorize and identify all the major nerves in the human cadavers. One thing that you will notice about the nerves is that they continuously branch off. I have never dissected a giraffe, but I'm guessing the laryngeal nerve takes the seemingly strange route because it branches off at specific locations. Many times the nerve branches off close to the target so that communication between the target and the CNS can occur more quickly.

Ao you didn't actually look into it, right?  Because if you had, you wouldn't have said something so utterly irrelevant.

He had to "memorize and identify all the major nerves in the human cadavers" and yet he's "guessing the laryngeal nerve takes the seemingly strange route because it branches off at specific locations." Wow. Just fucking wow.

(May 21, 2016 at 4:31 pm)AAA Wrote:

(May 21, 2016 at 4:05 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: You fucking retarded motherfucking idiot.

Something can be referred to as a design without the obviously obtuse definition of intelligent being carelessly thrown behind it.  

Grow the fuck up already.

PLEASE READ THIS. I have said many times that I know the DON"T think it was intelligently designed. They think it was designed by natural selection. 

please read it again. Please read it a third time. One more time. If you tell me again that I think they believe in ID then you will have convinced me you can't read.

But you continue to imply that this is somehow supporting evidence for ID. It's not.

I shouldn't have to say this to a science student, but you really need to learn how science is done, what the scientific method is, and how scientific theories are formed. You seem to seriously be suggesting that non falsifiable scientific theories exist. That shows a lack of understand so fundamental that it's really hard to believe you're a science student. Go ask any of your professors if a scientific hypothesis has to be falsifiable before being promoted to a theory.

Once you understand this point, you will see why ID is not science. It's pseudo-science.

PS: If you think anything I'm saying about how science works is wrong, please do go and ask any qualified scientist. I don't expect you to take my word.

(May 22, 2016 at 12:17 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

(May 21, 2016 at 10:59 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Ao you didn't actually look into it, right?  Because if you had, you wouldn't have said something so utterly irrelevant.

He had to "memorize and identify all the major nerves in the human cadavers" and yet he's "guessing the laryngeal nerve takes the seemingly strange route because it branches off at specific locations." Wow. Just fucking wow.

I would strongly recommend he ask for a rebate on his tuition.

(May 22, 2016 at 3:00 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(May 22, 2016 at 12:17 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: He had to "memorize and identify all the major nerves in the human cadavers" and yet he's "guessing the laryngeal nerve takes the seemingly strange route because it branches off at specific locations." Wow. Just fucking wow.

I would strongly recommend he ask for a rebate on his tuition.

That would be a good idea if he weren't shitting us about going to uni.