Reincarnation? Ha, I knew it!
It's always about eternal life....

Nobody would waste their time believing such nonsense if there wasn't something in it for them....
It's just the selfish ape gene fighting for immortality again...

OP, let me ask you? Why bother telling us any of this?

Ok yeah, I'm done here.

(May 27, 2016 at 4:11 am)Blueyedlion Wrote:

(May 27, 2016 at 3:46 am)robvalue Wrote: Welcome to the forum

That makes no sense at all. You're saying there's always something everywhere... so therefor that something is God? Sounds like you're just calling the universe God or something.

You might like to start by defining what God means, as specifically as possible. Also, you could add why anyone should care if there is such a thing.

Thanks kindly for the warm welcoming, to be clear, now 26 years of age, ive been an atheist up until a year ago, the change was based on the science first, experience later. So at the very least, i would hope no one thinks of me as a religious person, or some god pusher.

Just to note - I only mean to defend this statement to provoke any fermentation of out of the box thinking that may eventuate from this ^^

So to begin, yes one can identify the universe and god as the same thing. Which they indeed are, the only difference is your personal attachment to one or the other in your beliefs of what you may think can only constitute what the universe truly is or isnt.

God means energy in all states of being, from material, to consciousness. All that connects etc etc

Without going into a need for a long breath of explanation, the only difference between an atheistic mindset of the universe and theistic mindset of god, is that the definition of universe a theist believes in, holds that consciousness permeates all, where as an atheist holds consciousness is subject to the material. This will most likely be the major point of discussion if there is to be one on this topic.

Just out of curiosity, how did you get all that new age bullshit from science?

Because frankly unless you're seriously perverting the science, you cannot get to that bullshit from it.

Yes, this is Rik-esque

(May 27, 2016 at 6:25 am)Blueyedlion Wrote:

(May 27, 2016 at 5:40 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: I mean, really, where did you expect to go with this? "Atheists don't exist because of grammar!" Ummm...ok, I guess. If it's impossible to disbelieve the gods, why are you trying to convince me they exist? Why would you be trying to convince me of something I already believe?

You know what? I don't really think you believe in god. God doesn't exist anywhere, so believing in him is the same as believing in nothing, so you don't believe in god.


If you can see the problem with the above statement, you should be able to see the problem with the statement you're asking us to consider.

Since it's impossible to disbelieve,

I disbelieve whatever woo you're peddling, therefore your whole argument collapses like a badly stacke house of cards.

And of course when you say "God" you mean Lord Tiamat. Not Jehovah, right? 'Cause that Jehovah guy is just silly. But Tiamat, he's the real deal.

(May 27, 2016 at 10:17 am)LostLocke Wrote: And of course when you say "God" you mean Lord Tiamat. Not Jehovah, right? 'Cause that Jehovah guy is just silly. But Tiamat, he's the real deal.

Marduk rules!  Marduk, slayer of Tiamat...

Marduk desires not the barren wasteland of your desiccated viscera...

Yearn not for earthly things.  Cast off this taint... and become taintless...

(May 27, 2016 at 3:43 am)Blueyedlion Wrote: Because, god is omni-present, and omni-being and omni-everywhere, so even in absence it’s there for there is no such thing as true absence.

So i heard that recently and i would like to hear from atheists here what you all think of this statement.

Thanks

Sounds like a fancy way of not listening to what an atheist says about their lack of belief.

Bollocks. That's what I call it.

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