(June 16, 2016 at 3:10 pm)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: isn't it hypocritical to preach freedom of speech, but hate some of the ones who spoke their minds ?

No, it isn't. I don't make any efforts to stop you in speaking what you call a mind. I call it shit for brains, and that's my prerogative.

(June 16, 2016 at 3:10 pm)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: isn't it hypocritical to preach freedom of speech, but hate some of the ones who spoke their minds ?

The hypocrisy is wanting to eradicate people that practice a certain religion (freedom of religion is also a first amendment right), then whine about why no one respects YOUR first amendment right.

(assuming you're American)

(June 16, 2016 at 3:25 pm)Losty Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 3:16 pm)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: with a limit here, the more hates towards the speaker, the more it affects him, his job, his life, his marriage.  
He might even get attacked on the street, by attackers who thought it's ok to attack him, because he's so much hated...
it's not just hate.

Attacking someone is illegal and immoral. If you go around talking shit about how awesome Hitler was in real life you can expect that will draw some serious hatred. Those hating you, so long as they don't commit any crimes, have a right to free speech as much as you do. If it affects your life, your job, or your marriage that is your problem. Freedom of speech is a legal concept. It only protects you from being stopped by laws or the government. It does not make you free of consequences for your words.

speaking as if you control the general public driven by heard mentality, those ideal principles of yours don't mean shit in real life situations.

(June 16, 2016 at 6:22 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 3:10 pm)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: isn't it hypocritical to preach freedom of speech, but hate some of the ones who spoke their minds ?

The hypocrisy is wanting to eradicate people that practice a certain religion (freedom of religion is also a first amendment right), then whine about why no one respects YOUR first amendment right.

(assuming you're American)

you're still not getting what i'm trying to say, i'm not upset that you don't like what i'm saying, it's only natural that you don't.

(June 17, 2016 at 12:41 am)Marsellus Wallace Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 3:25 pm)Losty Wrote: Attacking someone is illegal and immoral. If you go around talking shit about how awesome Hitler was in real life you can expect that will draw some serious hatred. Those hating you, so long as they don't commit any crimes, have a right to free speech as much as you do. If it affects your life, your job, or your marriage that is your problem. Freedom of speech is a legal concept. It only protects you from being stopped by laws or the government. It does not make you free of consequences for your words.

speaking as if you control the general public driven by heard mentality, those ideal principles of yours don't mean shit in real life situations.

Wtf are you talking about? I never spoke as if I controlled anyone. I cannot stop anyone from kicking your ass because they hate you. I'm only saying as long as they don't do anything illegal it's perfectly acceptable for them to hate you. It's not hypocritical.

What is hypocritical is for you to think that you get to say whatever you want and other people can't respond to you hatefully. Why not? Is your free speech more important than theirs?

Also, what is heard mentality? Is that the mentality of people that heard you saying dumb stuff about Hitler?

You have a right to be an idiot. You also have a right to say idiotic things. And we have a right to call you an idiot, and tell other people to ignore you because you're an idiot. You don't get to say something, and then be free from criticism. That's a freedom nobody has.

(June 17, 2016 at 1:02 am)Cecelia Wrote: You have a right to be an idiot. You also have a right to say idiotic things. And we have a right to call you an idiot, and tell other people to ignore you because you're an idiot.  You don't get to say something, and then be free from criticism.  That's a freedom nobody has.

That's right: no one has the right to be free of offense.

Life's tough. Tighten the chinstrap on your helmet, and cry to your mom, not me.

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(June 17, 2016 at 12:55 am)Losty Wrote:

(June 17, 2016 at 12:41 am)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: speaking as if you control the general public driven by heard mentality, those ideal principles of yours don't mean shit in real life situations.

Wtf are you talking about? I never spoke as if I controlled anyone. I cannot stop anyone from kicking your ass because they hate you. I'm only saying as long as they don't do anything illegal it's perfectly acceptable for them to hate you. It's not hypocritical.

What is hypocritical is for you to think that you get to say whatever you want and other people can't respond to you hatefully. Why not? Is your free speech more important than theirs?

Also, what is heard mentality? Is that the mentality of people that heard you saying dumb stuff about Hitler?

sry, miss-spelled "herd mentality"...

you're still not getting what i'm trying to say. is it that hard to think in an abstract way ?
words have power, a huge effect, you might not see it, because you think what happens is the natural way of things or the normal result of an action, but there's more than that. 
Example: OU SAE racist chant got that kid kicked out of college, and his life destroyed, simply because he got caught on camera saying certain things that most people don't like.

I don't hate black people, and I don't care about what he said, but I just wanted to show you that political correctness propaganda can do a huge damage.
that kid is an idiot, he was probably gonna grow up anyway, we're all idiots and arrogant at that age. 

Do you think the KKK vanished ? Do you think racism is going to be stopped by kicking a kid out of college ? 
Why do you think anonymous message boards are getting more and more popular everyday ?

(June 17, 2016 at 5:00 am)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: Do you think the KKK vanished ? Do you think racism is going to be stopped by kicking a kid out of college ? 
Why do you think anonymous message boards are getting more and more popular everyday ?

If you think any message board is anonymous, you got even less of a clue than I thought possible.

As for not stopping racism. There's quite a difference between not stopping it by taking measures and tolerating, or even endorsing it by not taking any measures at all.

(June 17, 2016 at 5:07 am)abaris Wrote:

(June 17, 2016 at 5:00 am)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: Do you think the KKK vanished ? Do you think racism is going to be stopped by kicking a kid out of college ? 
Why do you think anonymous message boards are getting more and more popular everyday ?

If you think any message board is anonymous, you got even less of a clue than I thought possible.

As for not stopping racism. There's quite a difference between not stopping it by taking measures and tolerating, or even endorsing it by not taking any measures at all.

yeah, anonymous is a vague term in describing it, they keep IP logs, and there's a hidden ID for everyone, but you're still anonymous to everyone using that message board