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1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms

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1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
June 18, 2016 at 5:04 pm
Okay, I will watch the Kardasians or some shit like that.
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
June 18, 2016 at 7:37 pm (This post was last modified: June 18, 2016 at 7:39 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
By that definition, a Nest thermostat has free will. One may ask who cares.
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
June 19, 2016 at 5:48 am (This post was last modified: June 19, 2016 at 5:48 am by robvalue.)
"Free will" is past its sell by date now. I consider it a woo phrase. It needs so much clarification as to be useless. Get with the science.
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
June 19, 2016 at 6:07 am
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
June 19, 2016 at 6:08 am
(June 19, 2016 at 5:48 am)robvalue Wrote: "Free will" is past its sell by date now. I consider it a woo phrase. It needs so much clarification as to be useless. Get with the science.


robvalue,

Do you think you can prove free will is a woo phrase ? If so burden of proof.
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
June 19, 2016 at 6:17 am
Note his phrasing: "I consider it..."

Rob is expressing his personal opinion. He is not attempting to prove anything; thus he has no burden of proof. You've been told this before. You're coming off simply as obtuse at this point.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
June 19, 2016 at 6:20 am
(June 18, 2016 at 4:39 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote:
(June 18, 2016 at 4:13 pm)Alex K Wrote: What is freewill?

Alex K,

You may think that the definition is partly beyond words but a good way to define it, is the power to choose.

What is the nature of this choice? Are we free to choose however we deem fit, or merely from a set menu of prechosen options?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
June 19, 2016 at 6:24 am
All this drama over a fictional ideology.
I dunno, the young ones these days?

Thomas, the bible is just some parables written by ignorant goat herders.
You didn't fall for it, did you? Tell me you didn't.

Oh well, you know what they say folks. There's a sucker born every minute.
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
June 19, 2016 at 6:26 am
The only burden I have is scrolling past nonsense without reading it.
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RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
June 19, 2016 at 6:33 am
(June 19, 2016 at 6:17 am)Stimbo Wrote: Note his phrasing: "I consider it..."

Rob is expressing his personal opinion. He is not attempting to prove anything; thus he has no burden of proof. You've been told this before. You're coming off simply as obtuse at this point.

No, I asked him "Do you think you can prove free will is a woo phrase ?" and then you may see that I put "If so burden of proof"

I did not say it was not his own personal opinion.
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