1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
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1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
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No, he said that. You don't get to make that call. However if you do want to claim it as his making a statement of fact, guess what kind of burden you have?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (June 19, 2016 at 6:20 am)Stimbo Wrote:(June 18, 2016 at 4:39 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: Alex K, Do you think your cells control you, slave to them, or do you think you control them, master to them ? You may think you have the potential to choose good or evil.  (June 19, 2016 at 6:33 am)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote:(June 19, 2016 at 6:17 am)Stimbo Wrote: Note his phrasing: "I consider it..." I can prove free will is a woo phrase ..... Gospel according to Robvalue: 1:12 And so sayeth the Rob unto his value, Woo is the way of the saved and unto thee I grant thee free will to woo. 1:9 and thus the rob took of the rib of man and unto our value created Wooman and Wooman was good and mankind lived happily ever after.
Religion is the top shelf of the supernatural supermarket ... Madog
Does he still think I'm interested in anything he has to say?
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Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (June 19, 2016 at 6:38 am)Stimbo Wrote: No, he said that. You don't get to make that call. However if you do want to claim it as his making a statement of fact, guess what kind of burden you have? Do you think you can prove I said he doesn't get to make that call ? If so burden of proof. I didn't say it wasn't his own personal opinion.  RE: 1 John 4:1 compared to The No True Scotsman Fallacy and sophisms
June 19, 2016 at 7:00 am
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(June 19, 2016 at 6:45 am)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: Do you think your cells control you, slave to them, or do you think you control them, master to them ? Thomas Kelly252525, Do you think, that if god could do anything and everything, he could make you choose whatever he wanted - by only presenting you with choices about which your mind is already made up? Say, Jesus shows up before you and gives you a choice - suck a hobo's hairy d*ck, OR go to hell forever. So - do you have a choice? Does it mean you're gobbling that cheesy knob of your own free will? Do you tell yourself you just like the taste? Or did Jesus simply know, that you would suck a million dirty dongs, in order to avoid punishment, because you're a little b*tch... Where's your free will now, son? 
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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June 19, 2016 at 7:03 am
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2016 at 7:06 am by Thomas Kelly252525.)
(June 19, 2016 at 6:47 am)madog Wrote:(June 19, 2016 at 6:33 am)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: How do you think that proves free will is a woo phrase ? Do you think I said people don't have the choice to woo ? Do you think I asked him if he could prove free will is a woo phrase ?
No, you didn’t say that - he did. I never claimed that which you ascribe to me, so your insinuating that I did is both arrogant and presumptuous. I also have no burden to prove your negative; that's your bag.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(June 19, 2016 at 7:03 am)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote:(June 19, 2016 at 6:47 am)madog Wrote: I can prove free will is a woo phrase ..... Don't care, thought I'd prove it to you anyway and solve the problem 
Religion is the top shelf of the supernatural supermarket ... Madog
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