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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 23, 2016 at 12:13 pm
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(June 23, 2016 at 12:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: 50 injured by gunman in German movie theater. I guess Germany needs stricter gun laws too. Oh wait!...
Don't know where you get the 50 injured from, since there aren't any reported injuries besides the suspected gunman, who didn't fire a single shot. He took hostages and the SEK, similar to SWATS teams, took him out.
Nobody says, things like that don't happen in Germany. This has been as unbloody as it comes, and is in no way comparable to Orlando. But there have been mass shootings, once in a blue moon. School shootings mostly, two or three maybe, over the stretch of 2 decades. Compare that number to the USA and come again about gun laws in Germany. Which aren't as strict as in the UK, which hasn't seen a mass shooting since Dunblane in 1996 and the ensuing legislation.
German police officers fired something like 90 shots in 2014 with two being fatal, if I'm not mistaken, since I'm taking this off the top of my head from last years reports. Again, try a comparison to the USA.
Interesting statistic of some countries in comparison.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 23, 2016 at 12:19 pm
(June 23, 2016 at 12:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: 50 injured by gunman in German movie theater[...]
Bullsh*t. The gunman doesn't seem to have injured anyone. Reported injuries seem to be effects of tear gas, which doesn't really compare to a bullet wound, does it? I guess US needs better police...
Quote:“We believe that there were no injured people, and that the people who were in the cinema with the perpetrator could be freed uninjured”, Hochstaedter said.
Various local media had reported that up to 50 people had been injured due to the use of CS gas.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/j...-viernheim
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 23, 2016 at 12:37 pm
(June 23, 2016 at 12:19 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (June 23, 2016 at 12:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: 50 injured by gunman in German movie theater[...]
Bullsh*t. The gunman doesn't seem to have injured anyone. Reported injuries seem to be effects of tear gas, which doesn't really compare to a bullet wound, does it? I guess US needs better police...
Quote:“We believe that there were no injured people, and that the people who were in the cinema with the perpetrator could be freed uninjured”, Hochstaedter said.
Various local media had reported that up to 50 people had been injured due to the use of CS gas.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/j...-viernheim
The difference in death toll is most likely due to the motives of the gunmen rather than the performance of the police.
This more recent situation seems to have involved a gunman who was confused and tried to take hostages whereas the Muslim shooter wanted to kill lots of people in a nightclub.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 23, 2016 at 12:45 pm
(June 23, 2016 at 12:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: 50 injured by gunman in German movie theater. I guess Germany needs stricter gun laws too. Oh wait!...
I man killed by shooting in Germany, the hostage taker. But even if it was what you said it is not a weekly thing in Germany but in the US its every day.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 23, 2016 at 12:50 pm
(June 23, 2016 at 12:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: 50 injured by gunman in German movie theater. I guess Germany needs stricter gun laws too. Oh wait!...
That was the initial reports, but nobody was injured and only the hostage taker was killed. Things like this are a rare occurrence in Germany.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 23, 2016 at 1:12 pm
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(June 23, 2016 at 12:37 pm)paulpablo Wrote: This more recent situation seems to have involved a gunman who was confused and tried to take hostages whereas the Muslim shooter wanted to kill lots of people in a nightclub.
Muslims shooter, is it? Want to look up his record on being homosexual himself? According to the FBI, eyewitnesses and other sources?
Doesn't seem like it. He was a muslim, so he was a muslim shooter, barring all other motifs. There's also an interesting piece of FBI profilers saying, he fits the profile of mass shooter pretty well, as opposed to terrorists. But no, he was muslim, so he was muslim shooter.
I'm posting this with a very big caveat, since the guy may just be an attention seeker. But he claims to have been the lover of the shooter.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 23, 2016 at 1:18 pm
(June 23, 2016 at 12:50 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: (June 23, 2016 at 12:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: 50 injured by gunman in German movie theater. I guess Germany needs stricter gun laws too. Oh wait!...
That was the initial reports, but nobody was injured and only the hostage taker was killed. Things like this are a rare occurrence in Germany.
Yea there's another part of history gun worshipers ignore.
After WW1 the allies put heavy gun regulations on Germany. It was actually Hitler who opened gun ownership up, but only to party loyalists and nationalists.
And we have already seen the hypocrisy of a few gun shops, while saying gun rights are for all citizens, who have put signs on their doors saying they refuse to sell to democrats. Funny, but the 2nd Amendment doesn't place a party or religious oath on owning a firearm.
Not to mention "well regulated militia" was about a national guard, not idiots who want to pretend they are John Wayne.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 23, 2016 at 1:24 pm
(June 23, 2016 at 1:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yea there's another part of history gun worshipers ignore.
After WW1 the allies put heavy gun regulations on Germany. It was actually Hitler who opened gun ownership up, but only to party loyalists and nationalists.
Which is pretty far removed from reality. The regulations the allies enforced didn't cover handguns. Between the wars, especially during the first five years, pretty much everyone was armed if they desired to carry.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 23, 2016 at 1:47 pm
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(June 23, 2016 at 1:12 pm)abaris Wrote: (June 23, 2016 at 12:37 pm)paulpablo Wrote: This more recent situation seems to have involved a gunman who was confused and tried to take hostages whereas the Muslim shooter wanted to kill lots of people in a nightclub.
Muslims shooter, is it? Want to look up his record on being homosexual himself? According to the FBI, eyewitnesses and other sources?
Doesn't seem like it. He was a muslim, so he was a muslim shooter, barring all other motifs. There's also an interesting piece of FBI profilers saying, he fits the profile of mass shooter pretty well, as opposed to terrorists. But no, he was muslim, so he was muslim shooter.
I'm posting this with a very big caveat, since the guy may just be an attention seeker. But he claims to have been the lover of the shooter.
http://www.univision.com/univision-news/...mans-lover
correct, he was a Muslim.
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RE: 20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting
June 23, 2016 at 1:56 pm
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(June 23, 2016 at 1:47 pm)paulpablo Wrote: correct, he was a Muslim.
And I'm sure, since you're always the most balanced guy, you will apply the same standards to the next christian or nationalist doing a mass shooting. I'm looking forward to your profound analysis of the next incident.
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