(June 25, 2016 at 2:19 am)Sheed1980 Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 12:23 pm)Irrational Wrote: This very credible*** scientific link says the earth is 72% water:

http://www.livescience.com/29673-how-muc...earth.html

See? Scientists say the Quran is wrong.

Also, check this other credible*** site which also proves*** it's 72%:

http://thecontextofthings.com/2014/03/04...t-so-fast/

So you are wrong no matter how you look at it. If you believe I'm wrong, again, I ask you to prove me wrong.

Sucker.

Well the Qur'an is God's word Whom I understand Atheists don't believe in, but of the scientists who agree that the Qur'an is right and agree with 71.11% water surface on Earth, who's to say that ur scientists saying 72% are right and my scientists saying 71.11% are wrong and vice versa? And wouldn't it seem that if one is not the correct number, the other could be correct especially since each of the calculations are so close in percentile to each other?

I say no relevant expert says 71.11%, so prove me wrong if I am.

Also, the Qur'an doesn't say 71.11%, you do. If this is also wrong, then prove that the Qur'an actually says it. Show me the verse that says it clearly. Allah does not agree with you, so why continue to disagree with Allah?

(June 25, 2016 at 5:19 am)Irrational Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 2:19 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: Well the Qur'an is God's word Whom I understand Atheists don't believe in, but of the scientists who agree that the Qur'an is right and agree with 71.11% water surface on Earth, who's to say that ur scientists saying 72% are right and my scientists saying 71.11% are wrong and vice versa? And wouldn't it seem that if one is not the correct number, the other could be correct especially since each of the calculations are so close in percentile to each other?

I say no relevant expert says 71.11%, so prove me wrong if I am.

Also, the Qur'an doesn't say 71.11%, you do. If this is also wrong, then prove that the Qur'an actually says it. Show me the verse that says it clearly. Allah does not agree with you, so why continue to disagree with Allah?

What u as so many people misunderstand is Allah doesn't just say all of these miracles in the verses of the Qur'an. His verses to mankind send His command on how man is to live his lifestyle on Earth, also telling stories of previous prophets and their people and how Allah dealt with the disbelievers' disobedience then. But in the Arabic language that Allah revealed the Qur'an there are subliminal mathematical, scientific, linguistic, and even astronomical miracles, which are also all areas that the people in Muhammad's pbuh time were vain of their knowledge of.
 
Since u want to know the truth let me give it to u. I will tell u the Qur'anic chapter, verse, and word of that verse's number to show where we get this information. For example 1:2:3=Chapter 1, verse 2, word 3. The Arabic letters Ba (B) Ha (H) and Ra ® together in this order spell the word Bahr or "sea".
(2:50:4), (2:164:13), (5:96:4), (6:59:12), (6:63:7), (6:97:11), (7:138:4), (7:163:7), (10:22:6), (10:90:4), (14:32:21), (16:14:4), (17:66:7), (17:67:5), (17:70:8), (18:61:10), (18:63:19), (18:79:7), (18:109:4), (18:109:9), (20:77:12), (22:65:13), (26:63:7), (27:63:6), (30:41:5), (31:27:8), (31:31:7), (42:32:5), (44:24:2), (45:12:5), (52:6:1), (55:24:5). So u see here are the 32 verses that use the word "Bahr" for "sea".

The Arabic letters Ba (B) Alif (A) Ra (R ) together spell Bar or "land".
(5:96:12), (6:59:11), (6:63:6), (6:97:10), (10:22:5), (17:67:14), (17:68:6), (17:70:7), (27:63:5), (29:65:13), (30:41:4), (31:32:13), (98:7:9). So u see here are the 13 verses that use the word "Bar" for "land".

When u add 32+13 u get 45. 32/45=71.111% 13/45=28.889%. These are each the exact percentage of water(71.111%) and percentage of land (28.889%) that scientists have proven as covering the surface of our Earth . And if u happen to add 71.111% and 28.889% u get 100% or our TOTAL EARTH in case of this debate. So it has been proven to u my friend. So if u would like to look at these verses of the Qur'an and check for urself then u can do the math if it makes u feel better. But the numbers don't lie, nor does the Qur'an. It is the word of God Allah, and surely Allah speaks the truth.

Checkmate atheists.
Now where do I go to become a muslim.
The evidence is just too damn compelling.

(June 25, 2016 at 5:31 am)Sheed1980 Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 5:19 am)Irrational Wrote: I say no relevant expert says 71.11%, so prove me wrong if I am.

Also, the Qur'an doesn't say 71.11%, you do. If this is also wrong, then prove that the Qur'an actually says it. Show me the verse that says it clearly. Allah does not agree with you, so why continue to disagree with Allah?

What u as so many people misunderstand is Allah doesn't just say all of these miracles in the verses of the Qur'an. His verses to mankind send His command on how man is to live his lifestyle on Earth, also telling stories of previous prophets and their people and how Allah dealt with the disbelievers' disobedience then. But in the Arabic language that Allah revealed the Qur'an there are subliminal mathematical, scientific, linguistic, and even astronomical miracles, which are also all areas that the people in Muhammad's pbuh time were vain of their knowledge of.
 
Since u want to know the truth let me give it to u. I will tell u the Qur'anic chapter, verse, and word of that verse's number to show where we get this information. For example 1:2:3=Chapter 1, verse 2, word 3. The Arabic letters Ba (B) Ha (H) and Ra ® together in this order spell the word Bahr or "sea".
(2:50:4), (2:164:13), (5:96:4), (6:59:12), (6:63:7), (6:97:11), (7:138:4), (7:163:7), (10:22:6), (10:90:4), (14:32:21), (16:14:4), (17:66:7), (17:67:5), (17:70:8), (18:61:10), (18:63:19), (18:79:7), (18:109:4), (18:109:9), (20:77:12), (22:65:13), (26:63:7), (27:63:6), (30:41:5), (31:27:8), (31:31:7), (42:32:5), (44:24:2), (45:12:5), (52:6:1), (55:24:5). So u see here are the 32 verses that use the word "Bahr" for "sea".

The Arabic letters Ba (B) Alif (A) Ra (R ) together spell Bar or "land".
(5:96:12), (6:59:11), (6:63:6), (6:97:10), (10:22:5), (17:67:14), (17:68:6), (17:70:7), (27:63:5), (29:65:13), (30:41:4), (31:32:13), (98:7:9). So u see here are the 13 verses that use the word "Bar" for "land".

When u add 32+13 u get 45. 32/45=71.111% 13/45=28.889%. These are each the exact percentage of water(71.111%) and percentage of land (28.889%) that scientists have proven as covering the surface of our Earth . And if u happen to add 71.111% and 28.889% u get 100% or our TOTAL EARTH in case of this debate. So it has been proven to u my friend. So if u would like to look at these verses of the Qur'an and check for urself then u can do the math if it makes u feel better. But the numbers don't lie, nor does the Qur'an. It is the word of God Allah, and surely Allah speaks the truth.

That's Satanic, my friend. Allah would do no such thing. Stop following Satan!!!

Allah Almighty is very clear about what he says, and he does not play silly games with numbers. Anything that is not clear is not from Allah or Muhammad (PBUH).

That out of the way, no scientist says the percentage of Earth that's water is 71.11%. So you're lying, and you should stop doing that.

(June 25, 2016 at 7:43 am)Irrational Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 5:31 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: What u as so many people misunderstand is Allah doesn't just say all of these miracles in the verses of the Qur'an. His verses to mankind send His command on how man is to live his lifestyle on Earth, also telling stories of previous prophets and their people and how Allah dealt with the disbelievers' disobedience then. But in the Arabic language that Allah revealed the Qur'an there are subliminal mathematical, scientific, linguistic, and even astronomical miracles, which are also all areas that the people in Muhammad's pbuh time were vain of their knowledge of.
 
Since u want to know the truth let me give it to u. I will tell u the Qur'anic chapter, verse, and word of that verse's number to show where we get this information. For example 1:2:3=Chapter 1, verse 2, word 3. The Arabic letters Ba (B) Ha (H) and Ra ® together in this order spell the word Bahr or "sea".
(2:50:4), (2:164:13), (5:96:4), (6:59:12), (6:63:7), (6:97:11), (7:138:4), (7:163:7), (10:22:6), (10:90:4), (14:32:21), (16:14:4), (17:66:7), (17:67:5), (17:70:8), (18:61:10), (18:63:19), (18:79:7), (18:109:4), (18:109:9), (20:77:12), (22:65:13), (26:63:7), (27:63:6), (30:41:5), (31:27:8), (31:31:7), (42:32:5), (44:24:2), (45:12:5), (52:6:1), (55:24:5). So u see here are the 32 verses that use the word "Bahr" for "sea".

The Arabic letters Ba (B) Alif (A) Ra (R ) together spell Bar or "land".
(5:96:12), (6:59:11), (6:63:6), (6:97:10), (10:22:5), (17:67:14), (17:68:6), (17:70:7), (27:63:5), (29:65:13), (30:41:4), (31:32:13), (98:7:9). So u see here are the 13 verses that use the word "Bar" for "land".

When u add 32+13 u get 45. 32/45=71.111% 13/45=28.889%. These are each the exact percentage of water(71.111%) and percentage of land (28.889%) that scientists have proven as covering the surface of our Earth . And if u happen to add 71.111% and 28.889% u get 100% or our TOTAL EARTH in case of this debate. So it has been proven to u my friend. So if u would like to look at these verses of the Qur'an and check for urself then u can do the math if it makes u feel better. But the numbers don't lie, nor does the Qur'an. It is the word of God Allah, and surely Allah speaks the truth.

That's Satanic, my friend. Allah would do no such thing. Stop following Satan!!!

Allah Almighty is very clear about what he says, and he does not play silly games with numbers. Anything that is not clear is not from Allah or Muhammad (PBUH).

That out of the way, no scientist says the percentage of Earth that's water is 71.11%. So you're lying, and you should stop doing that.

this is what Allah does with His messengers. He sends miracles to show people His Almighty power through His messengers. For example; In Moses pbuh time the people were vain of themselves because of their knowledge of magic and illusion. So Allah sent Moses pbuh with miracles such as the rod turning into a snake, and parting the Red Sea as signs for those people, who were vain of their knowledge of magic, to ask those people: What magic that u people call urselves  to "know so much about" could outdo Allah Almighty's power through His messenger Moses pbuh could perform? The people In Jesus pbuh time the people were vain of their knowledge of medicine. So Allah created and sent His messenger Jesus pbuh. First born of a virgin woman, then through Allah's power and will Jesus pbuh healed lepers and cured the blind, and even raised the dead to life. So Allah asks these people who so call themselves to "know so much about medicine" to produce a medicine that can first impregnate a virgin woman among the other miracles that His messenger Jesus pbuh performed through Allah's power and will. With Prophet Muhammad pbuh the people were into poetry, science, mathematics, linguistics, and astronomy. So Allah sent the Qur'an as a miracle within itself that shows knowledge of all of these different subjects (and more) which the people of Muhammad's pbuh time so called "knew so much about" first by sending it as a scripture through Muhammad pbuh, who was an illiterate man, proving even he, as Allah's messenger to all mankind, obviously couldn't produce a scripture like this. So it must've come from The Supreme Being Himself. This is why the Qur'an not only gives Allah's laws and message to mankind, and tells about mankind, angels, jinn, and all creation, along with the present life and life Hereafter. But also the chapters rhyme towards the peoples' poetry aspect. And covers different mathematical, linguistic, scientific, and astronomical miracles which no human in the 7th century had knowledge of, to cover the peoples' other aspects. So just as Allah did with Moses and Jesus pbut both with the Torah and Gospel, He did with Muhammad pbuh with the Qur'an, a book that was revealed over a period of 23 years

(June 25, 2016 at 1:05 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 7:43 am)Irrational Wrote: That's Satanic, my friend. Allah would do no such thing. Stop following Satan!!!

Allah Almighty is very clear about what he says, and he does not play silly games with numbers. Anything that is not clear is not from Allah or Muhammad (PBUH).

That out of the way, no scientist says the percentage of Earth that's water is 71.11%. So you're lying, and you should stop doing that.

this is what Allah does with His messengers. He sends miracles to show people His Almighty power through His messengers. For example; In Moses pbuh time the people were vain of themselves because of their knowledge of magic and illusion. So Allah sent Moses pbuh with miracles such as the rod turning into a snake, and parting the Red Sea as signs for those people, who were vain of their knowledge of magic, to ask those people: What magic that u people call urselves  to "know so much about" could outdo Allah Almighty's power through His messenger Moses pbuh could perform? The people In Jesus pbuh time the people were vain of their knowledge of medicine. So Allah created and sent His messenger Jesus pbuh. First born of a virgin woman, then through Allah's power and will Jesus pbuh healed lepers and cured the blind, and even raised the dead to life. So Allah asks these people who so call themselves to "know so much about medicine" to produce a medicine that can first impregnate a virgin woman among the other miracles that His messenger Jesus pbuh performed through Allah's power and will. With Prophet Muhammad pbuh the people were into poetry, science, mathematics, linguistics, and astronomy. So Allah sent the Qur'an as a miracle within itself that shows knowledge of all of these different subjects (and more) which the people of Muhammad's pbuh time so called "knew so much about" first by sending it as a scripture through Muhammad pbuh, who was an illiterate man, proving even he, as Allah's messenger to all mankind, obviously couldn't produce a scripture like this. So it must've come from The Supreme Being Himself. This is why the Qur'an not only gives Allah's laws and message to mankind, and tells about mankind, angels, jinn, and all creation, along with the present life and life Hereafter. But also the chapters rhyme towards the peoples' poetry aspect. And covers different mathematical, linguistic, scientific, and astronomical miracles which no human in the 7th century had knowledge of, to cover the peoples' other aspects. So just as Allah did with Moses and Jesus pbut both with the Torah and Gospel, He did with Muhammad pbuh with the Qur'an, a book that was revealed over a period of 23 years

Ok, now instead of doing numerology which is Satanic, show me some mathematics or science instead.

We've established thus far that neither the Qur'an nor science says that the waters are exactly 71.11% of the Earth. In fact, I miraculously showed that the percentage is 72 through very credible science links. So you and Satan are wrong ... and Allah, science, and I are right.

You do realize Allah, and all of Koran, were completely made up purely to deceive idiots like you into believing shit that even more idiotic than you otherwise might have believed, Right?

It's always rotating

(June 25, 2016 at 5:19 am)Irrational Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 2:19 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: Well the Qur'an is God's word Whom I understand Atheists don't believe in, but of the scientists who agree that the Qur'an is right and agree with 71.11% water surface on Earth, who's to say that ur scientists saying 72% are right and my scientists saying 71.11% are wrong and vice versa? And wouldn't it seem that if one is not the correct number, the other could be correct especially since each of the calculations are so close in percentile to each other?

I say no relevant expert says 71.11%, so prove me wrong if I am.

Also, the Qur'an doesn't say 71.11%, you do. If this is also wrong, then prove that the Qur'an actually says it. Show me the verse that says it clearly. Allah does not agree with you, so why continue to disagree with Allah?

U like so many others misunderstand what I am saying. U r right the Qur'an does not say in any single verse the Earth is 71.11% water and 28.89% land. But in the Qur'an Allah does say in numerous verses throughout the Qur'an, "barr" or the Arabic word for land and also "bahr" the Arabic word for sea. The word for land is used 13 times while the word for sea is used 32 times. When u add them together u get 45. 13/45=28.89% and 32/45=71.11%. This is how I say these numbers are calculated in from the Qur'an. And it is totally amazing that the scripture which came from the Creator of the entire universe, has this among other information in it whom no human being had knowledge of in the 7th century, when the Qur'an was revealed to mankind, but with our technology today we can verify it as true. So Allah when He put these formulas in the Qur'an through miraculous hidden calculations He knew EXACTLY what He was talking about

(June 25, 2016 at 10:49 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 5:19 am)Irrational Wrote: I say no relevant expert says 71.11%, so prove me wrong if I am.

Also, the Qur'an doesn't say 71.11%, you do. If this is also wrong, then prove that the Qur'an actually says it. Show me the verse that says it clearly. Allah does not agree with you, so why continue to disagree with Allah?

U like so many others misunderstand what I am saying. U r right the Qur'an does not say in any single verse the Earth is 71.11% water and 28.89% land. But in the Qur'an Allah does say in numerous verses throughout the Qur'an, "barr" or the Arabic word for land and also "bahr" the Arabic word for sea.

And as a Muslim, that's as far as you should go. Anything beyond that is just extra bullshit made up by a subset of modern Muslim apologists like you. Neither the Qur'an nor science support the other stuff you're saying. What you're doing is just crap numerology that is just meaningless no matter how easily impressed you are by them. You can do numerology on any large amount of text and you'll come up with all sorts of so-called miraculous findings.

Here's a Muslim apologist, by the way, who has some advice for you (he reckons what you're doing is embarrassing):

http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/essays-arti...-approach/