(July 14, 2016 at 3:36 am)RozKek Wrote:

(July 13, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: Insha'allah I will never leave Allah's path of guidance. Islam is true teachings and worship of the Only true God alone which all Prophets pbut and their true followers worshiped as well. I fear Allah's wrath and torment and beg and pray for His mercy and reward. I'm sorry to hear u left Islam. But as u said u do u and I do me.

Even when there's no evidence at all to back your belief up? I feel sorry for you, Allah has struck fear so deep into you with his hell that you don't even dare to leave islam even when there's no evidence to back it up, when there's no threat.

There is plenty of evidence and signs to show Allah is the One true God and the Qur'an is His final word. Unfortunately u r too spiritually blind and deaf to recognize them. The question I would seem to ask is how many what u call coincidences have to happen before u admit it is a plan behind it? U judge me for believing in and worshiping The Lord of the entire universe, of all things created. Worshiping Him alone and fearing His wrath and punishment, and hoping and praying for His mercy? This is why He tells us in the Qur'an fear Him as He should feared. He is the only being who determines a matter and says to it "Be" and it is. He is The All-Powerful. It seems I should judge u and everyone else who is not worshiping Him alone. But that is not my position. That is what Allah will do. And I will be the first to tell u, Allah is the Wisest of judges.

Is there plenty of evidence and signs?  Seems to me like there are only two logical missteps pointing you to allah.  Kittens are miraculous, therefore allah.

Well fuck me, which way is east?

(July 14, 2016 at 12:05 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:

(July 14, 2016 at 3:36 am)RozKek Wrote: Even when there's no evidence at all to back your belief up? I feel sorry for you, Allah has struck fear so deep into you with his hell that you don't even dare to leave islam even when there's no evidence to back it up, when there's no threat.

There is plenty of evidence and signs to show Allah is the One true God and the Qur'an is His final word. Unfortunately u r too spiritually blind and deaf to recognize them. The question I would seem to ask is how many what u call coincidences have to happen before u admit it is a plan behind it? U judge me for believing in and worshiping The Lord of the entire universe, of all things created. Worshiping Him alone and fearing His wrath and punishment, and hoping and praying for His mercy? This is why He tells us in the Qur'an fear Him as He should feared. He is the only being who determines a matter and says to it "Be" and it is. He is The All-Powerful. It seems I should judge u and everyone else who is not worshiping Him alone. But that is not my position. That is what Allah will do. And I will be the first to tell u, Allah is the Wisest of judges.

They're a mix of coincidences, data manipulation and interpretations. That is the case whether you believe it or not. I've presented to you sources that demonstrate that. However, you can go on and be ignorant, not my problem.

Of course, I'm "deaf" and "blind" yet I can do my research.

(July 14, 2016 at 12:05 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:

(July 14, 2016 at 3:36 am)RozKek Wrote: Even when there's no evidence at all to back your belief up? I feel sorry for you, Allah has struck fear so deep into you with his hell that you don't even dare to leave islam even when there's no evidence to back it up, when there's no threat.

There is plenty of evidence and signs to show Allah is the One true God and the Qur'an is His final word. Unfortunately u r too spiritually blind and deaf to recognize them. The question I would seem to ask is how many what u call coincidences have to happen before u admit it is a plan behind it? U judge me for believing in and worshiping The Lord of the entire universe, of all things created. Worshiping Him alone and fearing His wrath and punishment, and hoping and praying for His mercy? This is why He tells us in the Qur'an fear Him as He should feared. He is the only being who determines a matter and says to it "Be" and it is. He is The All-Powerful. It seems I should judge u and everyone else who is not worshiping Him alone. But that is not my position. That is what Allah will do. And I will be the first to tell u, Allah is the Wisest of judges.

For some reason I just don't believe your opinion on wat IS gud literatur, qu'ran Is da perfet word of Allah!

(July 14, 2016 at 12:22 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: For some reason I just don't believe your opinion on wat IS gud literatur, qu'ran Is da perfet word of Allah!

You cracked me up man kudos to you

(July 14, 2016 at 12:22 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(July 14, 2016 at 12:05 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: There is plenty of evidence and signs to show Allah is the One true God and the Qur'an is His final word. Unfortunately u r too spiritually blind and deaf to recognize them. The question I would seem to ask is how many what u call coincidences have to happen before u admit it is a plan behind it? U judge me for believing in and worshiping The Lord of the entire universe, of all things created. Worshiping Him alone and fearing His wrath and punishment, and hoping and praying for His mercy? This is why He tells us in the Qur'an fear Him as He should feared. He is the only being who determines a matter and says to it "Be" and it is. He is The All-Powerful. It seems I should judge u and everyone else who is not worshiping Him alone. But that is not my position. That is what Allah will do. And I will be the first to tell u, Allah is the Wisest of judges.

For some reason I just don't believe your opinion on wat IS gud literatur, qu'ran Is da perfet word of Allah!

Have u read the many different miracles of the Qur'an that I replied to RozKek with?

(July 14, 2016 at 12:29 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:

(July 14, 2016 at 12:22 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: For some reason I just don't believe your opinion on wat IS gud literatur, qu'ran Is da perfet word of Allah!

Have u read the many different miracles of the Qur'an that I replied to RozKek with?

Yup, you actually forgot quite many. Want to see more miracles in the Qur'an? https://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Miracle_of_19 Go into this link and scroll down to "Anti-Islamic Phrases and Other Holy Numbers"

All of that is in the Qur'an the holy words of Allah =)

(July 14, 2016 at 12:29 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:

(July 14, 2016 at 12:22 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: For some reason I just don't believe your opinion on wat IS gud literatur, qu'ran Is da perfet word of Allah!

Have u read the many different miracles of the Qur'an that I replied to RozKek with?

Yeah, they are all a bunch of horseshit that requires a bunch of extra-quranic explanation after the fact to make them miracles. I would find it miraculous if there was a model for the steam engine in the Qu'ran. Instead there is just a bunch of poetry that can mean lots of different stuff. If there is really these scientific miracles in the Qu'ran, it should be easy for you to tell me what undiscovered science is still in there. If you can tell me what the next scientific discovery is in there, I'll convert to Islam.

(July 14, 2016 at 12:35 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I would find it miraculous if there was a model for the steam engine in the Qu'ran. 

I wouldn't.  I'd chalk it up to plunder.  Galens in there, why not Hero as well. Made it sound super-truthy at the time. Nevermind that it was wrong, trust the authors of the quran to faithfully parrot whatever "allah" has told them.

(July 14, 2016 at 12:21 pm)RozKek Wrote:

(July 14, 2016 at 12:05 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: There is plenty of evidence and signs to show Allah is the One true God and the Qur'an is His final word. Unfortunately u r too spiritually blind and deaf to recognize them. The question I would seem to ask is how many what u call coincidences have to happen before u admit it is a plan behind it? U judge me for believing in and worshiping The Lord of the entire universe, of all things created. Worshiping Him alone and fearing His wrath and punishment, and hoping and praying for His mercy? This is why He tells us in the Qur'an fear Him as He should feared. He is the only being who determines a matter and says to it "Be" and it is. He is The All-Powerful. It seems I should judge u and everyone else who is not worshiping Him alone. But that is not my position. That is what Allah will do. And I will be the first to tell u, Allah is the Wisest of judges.

They're a mix of coincidences, data manipulation and interpretations. That is the case whether you believe it or not. I've presented to you sources that demonstrate that. However, you can go on and be ignorant, not my problem.

Of course, I'm "deaf" and "blind" yet I can do my research.

Well I know atheists are big on math and science. Science especially. So when u do ur research do u find it true or untrue that: the Earth has 71.1111% water on the surface and 28.88889% land? The atomic #for iron is 26 and the Earth's core consists of iron alloy? That Venus takes 243 days to revolve around the sun, Deimos is a moon of Mars, the red planet covered with sand dunes? Sirius is a double star moving in a bow shaped orbit which occurs every 49.9 years? The 28 lunar phases of the moon? The year 1390 of Hijra is 1969 Gregorian and 1969 man set foot on the moon? Mountains are pegged deep into the Earth to help prevent consistent recurring earthquakes? The embryotic science? Or here's another for u that I didn't mention before what about Allah saying: He has set free the two seas meeting together(freshwater and saltwater). Between them is a barrier which they do not transgress (Qur'an 55:19-20) http://oi42.tinypic.com/w7o0uw.jpg

So what human being could keep count of exactly how many times this word was u used in a scripture revealed verses at a time over a 23 year period, Especially who could read or write? In a time period where NO HUMAN knew this information or had access to devices and technology to prove these statements?

So with ur research how due explain all of these happenings not to mention the mathematical miracles, which I didn't even bring up in this reply. As I said before, since all of this is proven as true someone knew exactly what they were talking about. That someone is Allah the author of the Qur'an.