Yes, white privilege is real. Yes, male privilege is real. Yes, straight privilege is real. Why is this even being questioned??
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Is white privilege real? To what extent?
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Yes, white privilege is real. Yes, male privilege is real. Yes, straight privilege is real. Why is this even being questioned??
If you have any serious concerns, are being harassed, or just need someone to talk to, feel free to contact me via PM (July 15, 2016 at 5:02 am)Iroscato Wrote: Yes, white privilege is real. Yes, male privilege is real. Yes, straight privilege is real. Why is this even being questioned?? Because some people want confirmation that their own prejudices are just peachy. RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 15, 2016 at 5:12 am
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In the UK white working class boys are now the least likely to attend HE out of all other demographics.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 15, 2016 at 5:22 am
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White privilege isn't a law, and isn't an all-or-nothing thing. It's a bias, a statistical reality.
For example, given a particular guy that got pulled over for a broken taillight and just warned and released, and another that was pulled over for a broken taillight, searched, and arrested for possession of drugs, what will we think? Either or both could be white, or black. But the white privilege is this-- there's such a strong correlation in this case between race or outcome, that it represents an unwritten rule: white guys get a break, black guys get disciplined. So if something isn't a set law, but can be clearly seen in correlations, is it real or not? If not, then evolution isn't real either because its purely statistical model. (July 15, 2016 at 5:02 am)Iroscato Wrote: Yes, white privilege is real. Yes, male privilege is real. Yes, straight privilege is real. Why is this even being questioned?? Because I'm against the idea that any subject is unquestionable. On this forum I've dealt with clams that having sex with 9 year olds is ok in specific circumstances, that the theory of evolution isn't true for certain reasons. But I don't think I've ever just said, this is unquestionable! As my argument. That's like a red flag to a bull for me personally. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 15, 2016 at 5:30 am
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(July 15, 2016 at 4:53 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:(July 15, 2016 at 4:27 am)paulpablo Wrote: But can you see how it would be annoying as a white person to be told you don't have to deal with things you definitely have to deal with? I'm not saying that you said or didn't say anything. The buzzfeed article. It says specifically, white people can walk the world not being aware of their colour. This is exactly what I'm talking about, I'm not denying the existence of white privilege in certain circumstances but to say I can walk the world without ever being aware I'm white or of what colour or lack of colour I am is ridiculous. It's not a red herring if I'm talking precisely about what the article is talking about word for word. Additionally I can just walk around my local area to be made to feel aware of my colour since there's lots of Pakistani majority streets in my area. They used to be known as white no go zones but have calmed down since. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. (July 15, 2016 at 3:04 am)Mathilda Wrote:(July 14, 2016 at 9:26 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I'm sorry, but the irony in your conclusions about white privilege is palpable. I suppose this might be classed as petty to bring up but I feel the need to. If a person from a certain demographic tells you that you're privileged in a certain way I know for near enough certain that you would question it if it was something you disagreed with. You've already said your profession is male dominated profession and it's something you're aware of. So what if a white male told you that you got your job for being an attractive female and it's just a case of female privilege? So you asked why would you not believe a demographic if they said you're privileged? Because you might have come to a reasonable conclusion that they're wrong? Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. (July 15, 2016 at 4:17 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: To be clear, most white privilege isn't something that white people are guilty of, or something they're actively doing. Rather, it's tiny little things in our society that build up. It comes to a boiling point when people start talking about it openly, and when social media can so easily bring people with common experiences together. It becomes harder to maintain the ruse that it's just me, or just my city/state. Why do people always get defensive about it? It's so weird to me. My white female privilege: I can get out of pretty much any traffic violation just by existing. People assume I know how to have an intelligent conversation with basic vocabulary and grammar skills before I start speaking. No one thinks I'm going to steal stuff when I go shopping. If I walk down a dark street people ask me if I need help instead of being afraid of me. I'm sure there's more that I don't even notice. My white guilt: none No one asks to be born whatever race they are born. White privilege isn't about putting white people down or calling white people racists. Little things that make life easier that are not earned but instead just kind of happen because you're white. (July 15, 2016 at 5:22 am)bennyboy Wrote: White privilege isn't a law, and isn't an all-or-nothing thing. It's a bias, a statistical reality. The police, laws, and attitudes to white people vary in this world. My main annoyance with the term white privilege is that it's used by privileged white Americans to make them feel better about being privileged while there's none privileged white people who are still being told they're privileged and being told certain bad things don't happen to them when they blatantly do. It's a statistical reality that in a white majority country where the police force is white you'll be treated better. That's the privilege of being in a country with other people of your own race, the advective "white" isn't that constant condition of privilege, it's being in the majority that's the privilege. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. |
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