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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 18, 2016 at 12:40 pm
paulpablo Wrote:Rhythm Wrote:You're quibbling over asians because you already know that your point is lost in the comparison between whites and blacks. Why would I bother to go down that rabbit hole?
I do wonder, though, whether it's ever occurred to you to wonder..whether asians see themselves as white or black, and whether whites are more amenable to asians than blacks? You're desperately searching for a group of people that whites -don't- have it better than, in order to avoid the inescapable conclusion that whites -do- have it better than the group in question, so you might want to consider who we privileged whites have deigned to include in our greater ethnic umbrella, lol.
I said at the first post it's important to note that privilege by definition is an advantage that only one group or person has.
If you ignore that Asians exist then yes white people are the privileged ones who avoid prison the most.
I "lost" in the comparison between blacks and whites because white people go to prison less than blacks, which is a point I have said is true all along anyway.
And looking at crime rate figures of black on asian crime vs white on asian crime, taking into consider population size I'd say white people are more amenable to asians than blacks. And looking at black on white crime vs asian on white crime relative to population size Asians are also more amenable to white people than black people.
The group of people that is less likely to be harassed by cops includes Asians and whites. You're taking the definition of 'privilege' super literally. Why is that?
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 18, 2016 at 12:54 pm
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(July 18, 2016 at 12:40 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: paulpablo Wrote:I said at the first post it's important to note that privilege by definition is an advantage that only one group or person has.
If you ignore that Asians exist then yes white people are the privileged ones who avoid prison the most.
I "lost" in the comparison between blacks and whites because white people go to prison less than blacks, which is a point I have said is true all along anyway.
And looking at crime rate figures of black on asian crime vs white on asian crime, taking into consider population size I'd say white people are more amenable to asians than blacks. And looking at black on white crime vs asian on white crime relative to population size Asians are also more amenable to white people than black people.
The group of people that is less likely to be harassed by cops includes Asians and whites. You're taking the definition of 'privilege' super literally. Why is that?
So white privilege exists in the way everyone says it exists, but don't take the word privilege literally. Just define the word so it confirms that everyone is correct about white privilege.
Hispanic people earn more and are imprisoned less than blacks so if we don't take the word privilege literally then that's odd I think but then in that case you're being racially discriminate in focusing just on white privilege if being privileged now means being more advantaged than black people in terms of earning money, education, prison rates and so on there must be brown privilege, Asian privilege, white privilege, not to mention different types of brown and whites privilege like Jew privilege, Korean privilege.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 18, 2016 at 1:00 pm
Your gripe appears to be with the english language and it's use in describing a demonstrable phenomenon.....rather than the phenomenon itself.
If I called white privilege "fixat", would you still have objections to the existence and extent of fixat?
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 18, 2016 at 1:02 pm
(July 18, 2016 at 1:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Your gripe appears to be with the english language and it's use in describing a demonstrable phenomenon.....rather than the phenomenon itself.
If I called white privilege "fixat", would you still have objections to the existence and extent of fixat?
I have a gripe with the English language because I use words the way they are defined in the dictionary?
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 18, 2016 at 1:14 pm
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Except the words white privilege, ofc. 
Do you deny the existence or doubt the extent of fixat?
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 18, 2016 at 1:17 pm
(July 18, 2016 at 1:14 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Except the words white privilege, ofc.
Do you deny the existence or doubt the extent of fixat?
Fuck off shithead
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 18, 2016 at 1:18 pm
See...now I can say -that- to a cop.........but it probably wouldn't be a good idea, if I were black.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 18, 2016 at 1:22 pm
(July 18, 2016 at 1:18 pm)Rhythm Wrote: See...now I can say -that- to a cop.........but it probably wouldn't be a good idea, if I were black.
Well you're being a shit head.
Your pleas to emotion, insults, strawmanning, avoiding answering questions, avoiding real debate.
I've said I think privilege is involved in the phrase white privilege, you seem to think this is some diabolical dishonest trick of mine. Really devious, actually using word the way they're defined.
So yeh to cut it short you're just being a shit head.
I don't mind real arguments against my opinions, I love a real debate but you haven't offered much.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 18, 2016 at 1:27 pm
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I don't think it's diabolical -or- dishonest. I think it's silly.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 18, 2016 at 1:30 pm
(July 18, 2016 at 1:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I don't think it's diabolical -or- dishonest. I think it's silly.
Ok your opinion is that it's silly to think that white privilege involves privilege.
Does white privilege involve white people then?
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